thanks for that. GF
On Oct 9, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > I've included the message below. I'm hoping that the jailbreak > community will inadvertantly make things better for us at some point. > Larry Wanger <lsw...@gmail.com> 30 September 2010 23:00 > I sent the following note to Apple Accessibility. No Voice Over on the > ATV and the remote app is rendered on the iPhone and iPad such that it > can not really be used either. Things will improve somewhat with > Airplay once implemented but not entirely. I hope others will consider > writing as well. > > > > Hi, > > > > I want to share my displeasure with Apple as I’ve just learned that > the new Apple TV product does not currently offer any kind of access > to blind and low vision television viewers through implementation of > Voice Over. I learned of this by calling and speaking with a sales > representative at Apple who checked with one of your engineers to find > out if accessibility features were built in to the product. Whether > Apple recognizes it or not, blind and low vision people enjoy watching > television and movies as well and Apple has unfortunately missed out > on an opportunity to continue to be a leader in this important area of > technology. > > > > While I was somewhat surprised to learn the actual Apple TV box did > not offer Voice Over, I was even more surprised to learn that the > newly updated remote app fails to provide a meaningful solution. Had > Apple implemented the remote app for the ATV in the same way that it > has allowed end users to use Airtunes I suspect things would have been > different. Recall that the remote app essentially rendered the user’s > iTunes library, showing music, podcasts and other media content. The > user could scroll through content and choose what to play. Best of > all, Voice Over worked well with this app. A similar implementation > would have offered an accessible solution. Beyond this, my > understanding of the technical specifications of the ATV would > indicate that the box itself should have enough horse power to handle > the same implementation of Voice Over that we currently enjoy on other > Apple products. > > > > I also would be remiss if I did not mention the recent passage and > pending presidential signing of the 21st Century Communications and > Video Accessibility Act. One of the provisions of this legislation is > the requirement for industry to develop set-top boxes that offer > accessibility features for blind and low vision users. While this has > happened after Apple developed this product, I mention it in hopes > that Apple will consider being a leader in this area by making its new > ATV accessible in the near future. > > > > Please know that like so many others, I am very appreciative of > Apple’s efforts and leadership by including Voice Over on the iPhone, > iPad and other products. However, it seems that Voice Over could have > been implemented on this device as well. I look forward to being able > to purchase and use the new Apple TV in the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 09/10/2010, Goldfinga Productions <goldfin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> oh my... well thanks for the heads up. >> >> GF >> >> >> On Oct 9, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >> >>> I think someone posted a response that they got from accessibliity a >>> couple of weeks ago where they were informed that the remote app >>> wouldn't work. I can't find the exact message right now, but it was in >>> the big thread that there was about apple tv in late september early >>> october. >>> >>> On 09/10/2010, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> OH yeah I didn't think about that. You might be able to use the remote >>>> app. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Goldfinga Productions wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone tried to control the apple tv with the iPhone or iPod touch? >>>>> I know it may take some sighted help to set it up, but I wonder if that >>>>> would work at all. I should go get one and try it out. >>>>> >>>>> GF >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 9, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It has been my experience that even if accessibility did know about an >>>>>> upcoming feature, (Which they probably won't), they will be unable to >>>>>> tell you about it; it's just the way that Apple works. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sorry to hear about your loss of sight; but in this situation, I >>>>>> think it would be best if you were to return the unit and get a >>>>>> refund. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/10/2010, Carolyn Haas <chaas0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi: >>>>>>> I can't say for sure whether they are bringing voiceover to apple tv. >>>>>>> But I >>>>>>> would bet my next paycheck that if you contact accessibility, they >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> know, and/or Apple would grant you a refund. >>>>>>> Sorry for your recent loss of vision. I can relate all too well as my >>>>>>> hearing fluctuates. >>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carolyn >>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Samuel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I preordered the apple tv back on September 13th and it just arrived >>>>>>>> today, but in that one month I've actually lost a noticeable amount >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> vision. 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