Hi Sarah,

My point is this, though. If something pops up that might be important, for 
example, but not a dialog, you won't know about what it is unless you're at 
your Mac to hit the keystroke. A lot of the time, it's pretty clear when you 
are within a window, even without verbosity, but by turning everything off like 
in the afformentioned setup you won't be able to memorize application windows 
if the order changes.

I'd be interested to hear about someone who sets the verbosity to low.

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On Sep 7, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> For me I memorized all of my application windows. Hmm I wonder how long my 
> memory will last. I don't always need to hit that keystroke as I have status 
> unchecked and name checked. much less verbose so all I hear for example is 
> mail, or message. not the rest of the stuff. Maybe when I do one of my mac 
> podcasts you'll get to hear what I mean.
> 
> Take care.
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Of course you can do that, but it'd be kind of counterintuitive to press a 
>> key every time you want to see the window you just command-tabbed to within 
>> the application, right? :)
>> 
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>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually I just use vo f2 to see  whare i am but yo make a good poing 
>>> though.
>>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 1:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> It's because he meant name, not description. That should do it. Keep in 
>>>> mind, though, that it might be pretty silly doing this as you won't know 
>>>> which window you are working with any application.
>>>> 
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>>>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Under window though is just status, name and type. not discription. Hmm. 
>>>>> Oddness. Ah well.
>>>>> On Sep 6, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just go to window and turn off both type and description, should work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Actually, I don't want to be read the subject line.  Should have made 
>>>>>>> that clear.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> E-Mail:
>>>>>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You simply need to change a few things in your verbosity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1. Open the VoiceOver Utility.
>>>>>>>> 2. Go to the Verbosity category, then leave it on general and expand 
>>>>>>>> the "Details" exclosure triangle.
>>>>>>>> 3. Locate "Window" in the table that will appear to the right of the 
>>>>>>>> expanded triangle, then interact. Find the Menu button right next to 
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> 4. VO-Space, then pick "Custom…" then deselect "Type".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Keep in mind that this will disable it so that you are never told that 
>>>>>>>> it is a window, of course. You can always set this back to the 
>>>>>>>> default. I've been reading this thread once in a while when it had 
>>>>>>>> messages, so I'm sorry if I'm totally off course here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You will still be read the subject line as expected. I assume this is 
>>>>>>>> what you wanted?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Nic
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>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Ray,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mine also says "Window" and reads the subject line before reading the 
>>>>>>>>> text of the message. I know no way of turning this off.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anne
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