Re: Need Basic Help About Running Windows

Chris Blouch Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:17:52 -0700

Just to clarify. Either Bootcamp or VMWare will run Jaws and the likejust fine. The main limitation of VMWare is that it runs as another app,just like Safari and Adium so it shares the CPU and disk with whateverelse is going on. In other words there will be some measure of aperformance hit using VMWare vs. bootcamp. That said, the ability tojust launch VMware when you need it and quit when you're done is a hugeplus. There probably won't be any situations where VMWare won't be ableto handle what you throw at it. I also find it very handy to have theshared clipboard so an URL I copied in mail on the Mac side can bepasted into IE on the Windows side. There is also some handy tricks withsharing folders and desktops which make integration much better.Rebooting into bootcamp for the occasional windows app use will get oldreal quick. You should be able to find Fusion for around $60 if you shoparound. Just be sure it's the current 3.x version. For Jaws a number offolks use Sharpkeys on Windows to map capslock to something else for thelaptop keyboard. Check the mailing list archives and you'll find awealth of stuff on this topic.

CB


Deb Lewis wrote:

Well something more to figure out I guess. Can I have a screen readerload at startup like you might in Windows? I would think that maybeyou could not.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" <prh...@suddenlink.net>
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Subject: RE: Need Basic Help About Running Windows

Using the caps lock is an issue in VM Fusion. So when installing JAWSdon'tlet it go to the system tray initially. Instead let it stay on thedesktop.You can redefine your jaws key to a keystroke that will work. I use amac

mini with a desktop keyboard so I can use the standard JAWS key. My wife
uses magic so I need to figure out how to redefine the magic key.

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Garry Turkington
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need Basic Help About Running Windows

Hi,

Not wanting to state the obvious but you will need to install your
screen reader of choice within the Windows environment, be it a dual
boot under Bootcamp or a virtual machine under VMware Fusion.  I know
there was historically some problems in getting Jaws to work properly
under Fusion because of the jaws key not always being recognised, not
sure if this is still a concern or if it also applies to Window Eyes
or other Windows screen readers.

I will say though as someone who fought with various dual and
multi-boot setups for years I am a huge fan of virtualisation -- use
it heavily on a Windows platform -- and would never want to go back.

Garry

On 7/7/10, Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good. I like things called Easy. And maybe I can find your podcast.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Need Basic Help About Running Windows

The main thing you will wantto do is choose the easy install, and atleastinitially, not set a password, this way you can get to the windowsdesktop

without running in to screens that are inaccessible.
On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Deb Lewis wrote:

Well this is getting put together for me at work so I can have them
install it tomorrow. I might need somehelp with what to do next though

and

I definitely have skype. I did  go tot he web site and basically
understand what it does. Anything i need to know specifically toinstall
it?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Need Basic Help About Running Windows
Hi there, you need to get a copy of vmware fusion, www.vmware.com.This
will allow you to run windows in a virtual machine, as well as install
without sighted help. If you have skype or another program for
communication, I could give you more help getting started withthis. Itwill allow you to run the mac and windows at the same time which isvery
convenient.
On Jul 7, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Deb Lewis wrote:
OK Gang. I read a ton of posts on this but it's like jumping intothe
middle of a conversation. So could someone help me by starting at the
beginning.
I just got a MacBook and I do need to run Windows on it forconvenience
and because some things I do just don't exist in the Mac world.
I know it has BootCamp already on it and my co-worker (not usingscreenaccess) installed Windows and runs that on her Mac at will. Butyou'reall talking about a lot of other ways to do this. What is the bestway,what choices do I need to make, and what specifically do I need toget.
Sorry if it's been covered. But after reading posts for an hourfrom the
archives I don't know this yet. LOL. TIA.

Deb
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