Hi, I have my view setting for threads set to on. So using VO-j may or may not work for me. I don't really know and don't really care. You see when I hit enter on a thread it either opens up all the messages if if have less than 10 in the thread or asks me to be sure I want to open more than 10, and it opens them each in it's own window. as such, I was able to listen to the body of a message and quickly determine if it was worth listening to or not. Then hitting the delete key ( I have a PC keyboard), I could move onto the next window. The issue was that after the upgrade there was an extra step required. You had to interact with the message area in order for the message to read. It became tedious when dealing with long threads. Now that I have turned the headers off and am able to return to the quick method again I am tickled pink.
I hope this answers your question. I was not sure how to describe the method I use, and I know that there may be a different one that may work better. This one is the one that I am used to and am glad to have it back. Keith On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Just hitting tab works good too, so what is the advantage of the new method > then? I am in genuinely interested. > On 30 Jun 2010, at 23:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > >> Change is hard and sometimes our heads are a little thick. I don't mind it >> either way :) >> >> Kev >> On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> What is wrong with just doing VO + J? >>> On 30 Jun 2010, at 23:19, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Hello again Kev, >>>> >>>> The solution to the headings problem is to press Command-Shift-h to get >>>> Long Headers, then you can find the popup menu to copy address or reply to >>>> sender. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: >>>> >>>>> It does work nicely. The only difference is that you won't be seeing the >>>>> actual e-mail address of the person sending you mail. >>>>> >>>>> Kev >>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Thierry, >>>>>> >>>>>> Great work around. It's much quicker than interacting then doing VO-a. >>>>>> Would you pass this tip on to the CeciMac Forum please? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Thierry Renoux wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The best way I found so far to deal with that issue is to press enter >>>>>>> on the message, control to interrupt voiceover so that it doesn't say >>>>>>> the whole sentence "... message content scroll area", then tab shift >>>>>>> tab and the message is spoken automatically. A heavy procedure though. >>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Mike, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I presume you prefer to read mail without the preview pane. In that >>>>>>>> case, all the advice about VO-j is useless. Apple has broken Mail for >>>>>>>> those of us who read without using the Preview pane. You have to >>>>>>>> either read line by line with the arrow keys or interact then use VO-a >>>>>>>> to read the message. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know what I did to precipitate this change, but Mail is >>>>>>>>> behaving slightly differently than it used to. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yesterday, I was notified about a new version of Mail, and I >>>>>>>>> downloaded it. I may have made some other changes as well, but the >>>>>>>>> problem I am now having isn't serious, but it's a pain, nonetheless. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whenever going through messages in the message table, I used to be >>>>>>>>> able to press Enter on the message I wanted to hear and Voice Over >>>>>>>>> would automatically begin to read the text portion of the message. >>>>>>>>> This is no longer the case, and I'd love to know how to restore the >>>>>>>>> old behavior. Now, I have to first interact with the text and then >>>>>>>>> press VO A to hear the message. It is far more time-consuming than I >>>>>>>>> would like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any ideas about how to get my system to revert to >>>>>>>>> the earlier behavior, and thanks in advance, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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