Sleep button for audiobooks? What does this do? On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> Bryan, owning a VRS and a Book SEnse, I adamantly concur. Yeah, I know it's > gadget overload, but I'll never need to buy a car with said payments being > more than the price of one of these gadgets every month. I suppose that's > how I justify the expense. LOL!!!!! I have put audiobooks on my iPod Touch, > but I still enjoy listening to them on the Stream or Book Sense more. Like > you, I can also operate these gadgets flawlessly while half asleep. As a > matter of fact, I don't believe there is a designated sleep button on the > iPod Touch or the iPhone for use while listening to books which, for me, is a > necessity. > > Choice is the key here though. Different strokes for different folks! > > n Jun 27, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> Well, a Windows user might say that they can purchase a computer, far more >> powerful than your Mac, and for less money, so why waste money on a Mac? Or >> many people wonder why people bother buying iPhones, when the new Android >> phones far outclass the iPhone in terms of specs and open operation? Cost >> isn't always the point, though. >> >> I don't want to sound like I'm down on them making this program. I might buy >> it. Actually, I wonder why I'm arguing this on a listserv, anyway. I know >> that many blind tech people are rightly down on some of the over-priced >> specialized blindness gadgets. But, seriously, this isn't a $5,000 note >> taker. Most of the book readers aren't much more than $300. That is damn >> cheap for a device that is optimized to be controlled with buttons and >> speech feedback, rather than using touch-screen gestures to review and >> control a visually-optimized interface. You're waiting for NLS support, >> which they may never provide. Meanwhile, the Stream works with NLS, RFB&D, >> newsline, practically all other major talking book libraries in the world, >> DVS movies from places like SamNet, plays Daisy audio books in both MP3 and >> 3GP audio formats (which this probably won't ever play, so probably no NLS >> support), plays commercial audio books (including Audible), plays books that >> you rip from CD yourself as books with all book features (bookmarks, notes, >> highlighting, etc) still in effect (not just loading MP3s in to a media >> player), reads Daisy books in text format, reads HTML and plane text with >> full book navigation and note taking features, plays MP3, OGG, and >> uncompressed music, and a bunch of other stuff, for 15+ hours at a stretch >> (no add-on battery pack required), for $300. And it operates so simply that >> you don't need hardly any sort of instruction to use it, and, without even >> using this app, I can state with certainty that no iPhone app is ever going >> to allow me to zip through menus like I can on a dedicated device. I can >> work it half asleep, which I often do. These little devices are really >> something for $300. So, just like getting a Mac instead of Windows, or an >> iPhone instead of a Droid, you're buying it not because it's the rock-bottom >> option in terms of cost, but because of the optimized user experience, and >> the fact that it just works. >> >> Anyway, all this to make the point that, regardless of software, my >> prediction is that, with no dedicated hardware for decrypting books, and no >> hardware support for decoding the audio formats that some of them use, all >> of that will be running in software, constantly running the CPU at max, >> sucking down battery power, and you'll be lucky to get 4 hours out of a >> stock battery before the phone goes from full charge to fully dead. Maybe a >> battery pack could stretch it to 8. Even so, it will support far less >> content, and the interface will be far slower to operate. I don't think that >> translates in to a good book player. I hope that they can prove me wrong. >> >> I'd probably be willing to trade off some of the stream's long run-time and >> sacrifice its great interface, if the iPhone app would actually do more than >> a digital book player. Right now it does less in every regard. What I'd like >> to see is this app become a blind version of Netflix, offering content on >> demand. If you could start this reader app, and browse/stream content from >> various providers like the talking book libraries, Bookshare, etc, then I'd >> consider it superior. That would also get rid of the whole overhead of >> having to make sure your phone and computer are on the same Wi-Fi network >> (this isn't always possible), and upload books to your phone over FTP. >> Basically, these guys should stop trying to think about how to port a >> desktop Daisy book reader to the iPhone, which is what they've done so far, >> and start thinking of this like a rich client, which is how most all of the >> other media apps on the iPhone operate. Just imagine how not fun Netflix >> would be if you had to log on from your PC, find and download a movie, get >> your phone and PC on the same hotspot, and upload the movie to your phone. >> There is no way most people would bother with that. They want to have an >> impulse like "hey, I'd sure like to watch an episode of Family Guy or see >> what new documentaries are out from the Discovery Channel", bring up the >> app, type in a search query, and tap play. All of that stuff with using a PC >> and re-uploading files takes all of the spontaneousness out of finding >> something entertaining to enjoy while you have some down time, and turns it >> in to a project. >> >> Anyway, here's hoping we get a BlindFlix, or AudioZone, or something for >> audio what Netflix is for video and the general population. The person that >> makes that will have my money for sure! >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:34 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Answering a few questions about Daisy Bookworm for iPhone >> >> Personally I would not spend the money on a Victor Stream or any other >> product, if I can get an app for the iPhone. I still have hope that >> something may be done to play NLS content for example on the iPhone and it >> is still a possibility. The point is I could purchase the best possible >> battery pack and still spend less money then if I purchased one of the >> accessible book reading devices. >> Sure you would not one to drain your communications device down since having >> it always ready to communicate is important, but there are always at least >> two solutions to every problem. >> On Jun 26, 2010, at 3:39 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> What reader do you have? Well this may be a good app for the iPod Touch >>> which still works out cheaper then the Victor Stream. >>> On 26 Jun 2010, at 07:47, Bryan Smart wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe it's how you read books. >>>> >>>> I read the most when I'm traveling. A book is a great way to pass the time >>>> on a plane, in a terminal, or on a bus. I like the entertainment of a >>>> book, but would not want to risk draining down my phone, which I'd >>>> certainly need during, and more importantly toward the end, of my trip. >>>> Some days I spend 8 to 10 hours traveling. Even with a battery pack I >>>> seriously doubt that an iPhone could read books for that long, and still >>>> have enough charge left for important calls, GPS, and e-mail. If you only >>>> occasionally read books, and for short periods of time, the app would >>>> probably work out great. I read a lot! While traveling, while doing >>>> laundry, sometimes when eating, when going to sleep, etc. I'd kill an >>>> iPhone battery. >>>> >>>> Bryan >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:59 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Answering a few questions about Daisy Bookworm for >>>> iPhone >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I personally would find that of little concern. It would just be 1 less >>>> thing to carry and 1 less thing to spend money on. Those things out way a >>>> 15 hour battery life in my opinion. It's kind of silly to compare. The >>>> iPhone does more so should have lower battery time. And the IOS 4 update >>>> has fixed the standby bug so many people are having more than double the >>>> battery life than they had pre update. >>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, nice as it is, a Victor stream will play for 15 hours or more on a >>>>> single charge. How long do you think that your iPhone will play? >>>>> >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:40 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Cc: macvoiceover >>>>> Subject: Re: Answering a few questions about Daisy Bookworm for >>>>> iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Sounds great and at such a low price too (don't think I will be buying a >>>>> victor stream now). tHIS ftp thing, is there no way you could add >>>>> support for iDisk for those of us who have it? That might be much easier >>>>> then establishing a FTP connection. >>>>> >>>>> Seems like this year might be the start of many good accessible apps >>>>> for the iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Is there anything on the iPhone that reads MS Word documents via >>>>> VoiceOver? >>>>> On 24 Jun 2010, at 09:38, Greg Kearney wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'll try and answer a few questions that have come up about Daisy >>>>>> Bookworm for iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> Loading Books >>>>>> Loading books is done via an FTP connection between your computer and >>>>>> the iPhone Daisy Bookworm has a built in FTP server which you connect to >>>>>> and then upload the book's directory to the phone using any FTP client >>>>>> on any computer. Needless to say you need a wireless network to connect >>>>>> the phone to. You do not need your own FTP server, Daisy Bookworm has a >>>>>> built in FTP server. >>>>>> >>>>>> Book compatibility >>>>>> Daisy Bookworm for iPhone will read any audio only and full text full >>>>>> audio unencrypted DAISY book. This includes books from Association for >>>>>> the Blind of Western Australia, Vision Australia, RNZFB, CNIB, RNIB, TPB >>>>>> and most other world talking book libraries. It will not read NLS >>>>>> encrypted books. We have asked the NLS about how to have these devices >>>>>> authorised but have yet to receive any reply. We are working on RFB&D >>>>>> playback and text only DAISY playback (Bookshare) in the next release. >>>>>> >>>>>> Accessibility >>>>>> Daisy Bookworm for iPhone is fully accessible with VoiceOver screen >>>>>> reader. >>>>>> >>>>>> iPad >>>>>> Daisy Bookworm is compatible with the Apple iPad. >>>>>> >>>>>> Where do you get Daisy Bookworm >>>>>> Daisy Bookworm will be available this summer from the iTunes App Store. >>>>>> It will cost less than $5 when released. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this Voice of Daisy >>>>>> No. Voice of Daisy or VOD is a different program from a different >>>>>> developer in Japan. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this clears things up. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media Association for the >>>>>> Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 >>>>>> Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA 6100 >>>>>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au >>>>>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America) >>>>>> Email: greg.kear...@guidedogswa.com.au >>>>>> Email: gkear...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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