Alfredo, I only need a couple of key strokes to get to the search box in google. First, you should know that my quick nav is on. So when safari loads the page, I first use my up and right arrows to select forms in the web rotor. Then I hit the down arrow. The first place I land is the search box. I Then can type what I want and hit enter or go down arrow again to the search or I'm feeling lucky buttons. Having been a jaws user for a number of years, I do understand the convenience of simply hitting the f key and landing on your form field, but thing about this. With quick nav, you may navigate the web one-handed as any sighted person can do with a mouse. I find that highly liberating as I feel it requires less effort on my part.
Friendly, Chris On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alfredo wrote: > The rotor utility is not efficient enough for me, I hate to make a > comparison but with jaws I get to a text edit field, like the google > webpage one, automatically or by pressing the f key. With voice over > in safari, when I go to the google webpage I have to use the VO keys > along with the right arrow key several times, about 4 or 5, to get to > the text edit field. The safari way requires more key strokes, if I > could remove key strokes then better. I could use the web item rotor > and the of to forms, and then the text edit field but I think this > requires the same number of keystrokes. Maybe as I get used to the > mac I will get better and be able to find a way o do this. I will > try grouping mode to see if this helps. Should the voice over cursor > be focus on the google search field when i load the google web page? > It does on other pages, like the gmail web page. Maybe if I turn off > automatic speaking of webpages when they load. Thank for clarifying > the thing about the multiple tabs, I search online, on google, and > only found one solution for this, and i think it was because of safari > 5 extensions, which I currently do not have. With everyone saying > that it caused them trouble I will stay away from it for another month > or so. Thanks again for the response. > alfredo > > Chris Moore wrote: >> Is the form item in the rota not efficient enough for you? (you can create a >> short cut to toggle between DOM and group mode) >> as for text elements , have you tried surfing in grouping mode?when you >> mention tabs, do you mean they are automatically open with the web pages >> loaded of your choice? Not that I am aware of maybe as Safari 5 has been >> opened up someone might develop an add on. for now you will have to press >> command + T for a new tab. and then use control + tab to cycle through them. >> On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:08, Alfredo wrote: >> >>> I am going through the online tutorial with voice over and am hitting >>> some bumps in the way. >>> 1. Can you navigate the web by form field like in jaws? In jaws you >>> just clicked the âfâ key and you would land on a form field, such as >>> an edit box, radio button, or button. >>> 2. Is there a way to navigate text element by text element, sometimes >>> it would be useful just to get to the text section of a webpage, >>> especially ones that contain many links. Is there a hot key to >>> navigate text element by text element on the web? >>> 3. I was reading the select multiple items section and tried it on >>> the Voice over utilities, VO + F8, and went into his web section, and >>> went to the web rotor popup menu. I wanted to select multiple items >>> or deselect multiple items but I could not. Plus VO does not tell you >>> if the checkbox on the popup menu is on or off, even when I pressed VO >>> + f8. Can anyone shine a light on this? I can live with having to >>> close the menu for every selected Item I want but it would be more >>> convenient to just select all items I want then close the popup >>> menu. >>> 4. Is there a way to set up multiple tabs upon starting safari? I >>> had multiple tabs for my internet explorer on windows since this way I >>> have quick access to my bank account webpage, phone bill web page, >>> Google search, Gmail, NFL website, book share, and others. Does >>> anyone know how to do this? >>> 6. Is there a way to activate a link from within the web item rotor? >>> Like for example, instead of just going to the link selected from the >>> web item rotor can I activate that link so that the web page will load >>> up auto magically? This would save me on more steps in selecting the >>> link. If there is no way to do this, then I will send an email to >>> apple suggesting that they add this feature. The can do like, if you >>> press the control key while selecting a link on the web item rotor you >>> will activate the like not only go to it. >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated; the Mac experience is going >>> good so far >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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