I'll have to try that keystroke. Sorry I missed the second command. I guess I 
was not paying attention. I have plenty of izssies today that took me 4 hours 
to solve.

I'll have to try that method too as well in case I am on an older system.

Take care.

S
On May 16, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> I did list Command-Shift-T in the second paragraph.  However, since Allison 
> was opening these applications by using Spotlight, and not by using Finder 
> (e.g., by going to the Applications folder with Command-Shift-A, or possibly 
> to the Utilities folder with Command-Shift-U and then finding the app by 
> typing the first few letters of the name), I thought I might as well tell her 
> how to keep these apps in the dock once they were opened, first.
> 
> The other reason for answering this with Command-Shift-T listed second is 
> that this shortcut only works for Snow Leopard.  While it's true that most 
> new users will be using Snow Leopard, there may be some folks who are 
> starting out on older computers and systems -- perhaps even systems that 
> can't be upgraded to Snow Leopard.  So, it's always useful to give an answer 
> that can be used for VoiceOver in every Mac OS X operating system that runs 
> it.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Why not just hit command shift t from the applications command shift a 
>> folder from with in the finder? seems much simpler to me. I did not know 
>> about the other option. cool idea.
>> 
>> If I already sent a reply sorry. I'm having mail issues.
>> 
>> S
>> On May 16, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Allison,
>>> 
>>> You can use a much simpler procedure to keep apps that you want in the 
>>> dock.  Whenever you open an application, it is stored in the dock.  To keep 
>>> the application in the dock, even when it is not opened, just use VO-d to 
>>> navigate to the dock, then type the first few letters of the name of the 
>>> app to move to that app.  Then, bring up the context menu with VO-Shift-M.  
>>> Arrow up in the menu until you reach "Keep in Dock" and then press return.  
>>> Now, when you quit the app, it's icon will still be left in the dock. When 
>>> you revisit the app in the dock and check the contextual menu, you'll find 
>>> the option "Remove from Dock" instead.  You can also reorder your apps in 
>>> the dock by pressing the Option key and tapping your arrow keys.  For 
>>> example, if you wanted to move your app 3 places to the left, after 
>>> navigating to it, hold down the Option key and tap the left arrow key 3 
>>> times (you won't hear anything spoken).  Now, when you arrow through the 
>>> dock, the apps will be in your new order.
>>> 
>>> The other way to place an app in the dock without opening it in Snow 
>>> Leopard is to select it in Finder and then press Command-Shift-T.  Again, 
>>> you can move it around in the dock after you've placed the app there.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Allison Manzino wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know how to copy apps to the doc? I have to use Spotlight to 
>>>> find nearly every single application I use frequently that is not on the 
>>>> doc. I read Josh Lioncourt's instructions on copying apps to the doc, but 
>>>> even with cursor tracking turned off, it doesn't seem to work. Can anyone 
>>>> provide instructions on how to accomplish this? I'll tell you the steps I 
>>>> use to try and accomplish this.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Navigate to the app I want to copy to the doc with standard Voiceover 
>>>> commands.
>>>> 2. Make sure the mouse and VO cursor are on the app by pressing  VO F5 
>>>> then VO Command F5.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Then I press VO shift F3 which turns off cursor tracking.
>>>> 4. Press VO shift spacebar to start dragging.
>>>> 5. Navigate to the doc and press VO shift spacebar again.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm unsure what I'm doing wrong. Thank you for any assistance.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Allison
>>>> 
>>> 
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