Yeah, I agree. I think I’ve been lucky. For the most part, when people complained about bugs in previous releases, I didn’t experience those bugs. But it’s definitely been different with Tahoe. I don’t mind IOS 26 too much, but I feel like since the introduction of Liquid Glass, VO loses focus a lot. Cheers, Donna
> On Jun 12, 2026, at 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote: > > In my case, I think it was two versions of Sequoia before Tahoe that > accessibility or just operational illness of VO with macOS took a dive iOS 26 > OS kinda went odd too > The rest is just a me coming from PC thing the interacting and stuff like > that being annoying that’s just personal to me coming again from PC but the > stuff that was making me want to say uncle is that stuff man is disappearing > VO freezing having to restart it, which is unacceptable that’s like telling a > side person just restart your screen. Those are the things that made me want > to say uncle > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 12:33 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: >> I get it. I feel like since the release of IOS 26 and macOS Tahoe, >> accessibility has taken a serious step backward. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 11:12 AM, Hamit Campos <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Donna. >>> Are you saying this to me? >>> I agree. If you're talking about my spotlight trick. Oh wait or the image >>> thing? Even that again I agree. >>> It's this kinda oh turn VO off and on again kinda thing that a few weeks >>> ago I was almost ready to say uncle. >>> >>> Also if 1 has in my case 3 accounts on YouTube go to the second 1 and third >>> fine. >>> Come back to second mmmm okay. >>> >>> But go back to main account Safari not responding. >>> It's like then the spunge Bob thing, " afew moments later." Oh you decided >>> to come back and behave ha Safari? >>> >>> Groul. >>> Oh and that context menu to open a page in an new tab or window or tabb >>> group also decides to go away. You just get forward back and what ever the >>> other 2 things are. Groul! >>> This is how I almost was gonna blow 19 hundred on a Studio? >>> >>> Which don't get me wrong I so would love a studio so gelus of anyone with >>> 1. But this Mack OS and VO thing like bruh. >>> >>> I've called apple BTW and reporded all this. >> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2026 12:01 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: Re: Mac OS software latest update >>> >> >> >>> Yeah, but it’s annoying to have to do that for every single page that you >>> open. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Jun 12, 2026, at 10:05 AM, Herbie Allen <[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> > >>> > When you get the image thing, simply Toggle Reader mode on and off with >>> > Command Shift R. >>> > >>> >> On Jun 12, 2026, at 08:03, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> >> <[email protected] >>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On my PC, if I click on a link, Chrome opens to the page in question, >>> >> not the toolbar. I could probably live with the toolbar behavior if it >>> >> weren’t combined with the Image thing. >>> >> Cheers, >>> >> Donna >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 9:57 AM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries >>> >>>> <[email protected] >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 'Bradford Snyder' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] >>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> When opening Safari, I have mine set to open to an empty page, with >>> >>>> focus on the address edit field, which is of course in the Toolbar. >>> >>>> Since this is expected behavior, I have never considered this a bug. >>> >>> >>> >>> I agree. 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