Hey Mark,

It’s worth reading the Applevis list of bugs, but, other than the issue with VO 
not speaking the keyboard when you are first asked to sign in after the update, 
there are only a couple of little things I have noticed.  And the sign-in bug 
doesn’t seem to always happen.  I would just suggest that you have someone 
sighted around when you do the update, just in case.  Re the smaller things, 
when you have a notification, VO says collapsed stack, even if there’s only one 
item.  Kind of annoying, but for me not a show stopper.  Likewise, when you 
open the App Switcher, it takes VO a while to focus, so if you try to close an 
app too quickly, you may end up closing the wrong one.  Again, a little 
annoying, but not a show stopper.  I have no regrets about updating.
HTH,
Donna

> On Sep 28, 2024, at 4:07 PM, MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, the other day, I went to the Apple store and purchased an Apple Watch 
> Ultra, II.
> 
> This particular store does not currently have any 16 Pro Max phones in stock.
> 
> I have yet to update my beloved 14 Pro Max to iOS 18 as I am waiting for 
> 18.01 / 18.1 to be released.
> 
> So, as I began to setup my Ultra, I received the message that I must first 
> update my phone before I can use the automatic insulation feature to set up 
> my watch.
> 
> Now I know I can setup my watch, manually but there are so many settings that 
> I have customized that I have decided to just wait until I get iOS 18.
> 
> Question, are there any real show stoppers in the current release of 18 that 
> a VoiceOver user should wait to the next release?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> In the meantime, like me, my Apple Watch Ultra II is waiting to exhale.  
> (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
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