Jess, I think that the ads API will actually be a good thing. Charlie has a point, even if he delivers it tactlessly. The time that is needed to make anything but the most basic apps requires money. The people that make the app either get the money back through selling you the app, giving you the app for free while charging you a small monthly service fee, or else get that money from advertisers. Particularly when making an app is complicated, but not many people will be expected to buy it because it is something that they only casually use, the only real way to support the programming labor is with ads.
So, I think that lots of developers want to use ads in their apps. You know that that could get messy. Ads could become to intrusive, and they would certainly look different in every app. The ways that developers try to display them might conflict with VoiceOver. Until now, though, Apple hasn't really had any strong guidelines about what is acceptable for ads. I believe that, with this new ads mechanism, since Apple now is offering a standard way for an app to display ads, the ads portion of an application will be expected to use the standard adds mechanism. A developer's app will usually be rejected by the App Store if their app tries to re-implement some existing feature of the iPhone/iPad. This is so developers won't go changing the way that the interface looks, or trying to substitute areas of the OS that people already expect to work a certain way. So, they'll probably make all ads go through the new mechanism. Since there will only be one official way of displaying ads, I expect that this will cut down on many of the normal performance and security problems that people run in to with ads. It also would mean that they'd almost always be displayed in the same way, and they'll probably be accessible/readable with VO/not conflict with VO. I think that location services are part of this, also, so the ads can suggest services that are actually local to you. I actually don't mind ads, if they're useful. If they're advertising something nearby, or that is relevant to me and my likes, then they might tell me about something that I would actually use. Without the targeting information, they're just as likely to try to sell me home refinancing and Viagra. Now, that's annoying. lol. I think that, by forcing everyone to go through a standard service, Apple can make the ads better. They wouldn't need to mess up your device, they wouldn't need to frustrate you, and they could actually be useful information for you. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jess Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone 4, and IAds Neil, thanks for coming to my defense. Appreciate it, buddy. I did not appreciate being told to grow up on list, just for voicing my opinion, and it's rather nice to know that my opinion has somevalidity and that I'm not totally off the wall for not wanting ads. On Apr 11, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Neil James wrote: > Why all the hostility on your part? Telling some one else on list that they > have to grow up just because they expressed their opinion shows a lack of > maturity on your behalf as well. > > Neil > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Doremus" > <giantdolp...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: IPhone 4, and IAds > > > I guess you can't handle the truth. If you don' want ads I suggest you just > disconnect your computer and donate it. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Jess <theeternal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Charlie wrote: >> "The next thing I expect to hear from you is "there's a communist under your >> bed" grow up! Facebook and twitter are littered with ads now." >> Apparently you haven't used apps like Syrinx or Twittero, they don't give >> you any ads from Twitter or facebook. I realize that ads aren't going away, >> but if I don't want to see an ad, I shouldn't have to be forced to look at >> it. And by the way, leave the communist crap out of it. >> Jes >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote: >> >>> The next thing I expect to hear from you is "there's a communist under your >>> bed" grow up! Facebook and twitter are littered with ads now. Developer >>> need an income stream do you want free apps to vanish. Get real. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Jess <theeternal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> I am disappointed with the introduction of IAds in IPhone 4.0. If I'm >>>> browsing the web or looking at facebook and v o starts reading an ad, I >>>> would be annoyed. Also, can we just say, ad ware for the IPhone? 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