Hi Nic,

There's a "Start Tracking with Heading" button in the lower left of the Maps app screen that you might explore. It seems to lock on your current location, and maybe switch you to one of the map views with your current location. Also, in a viphone list post titled "Your location question in GPS apps like Navigon and Maps" back in February, I discussed the location accuracy of Google Maps vs. the assisted GPS triangulation (which, by the way, is one of the features of the iPad +3G models slated for release later this month), and determining your address with the "Current position" pin. I'll paste that in here below my sig if you want to review it and experiment.

Cheers,

Esther

From: Esther
Date: 16 February 2010
To: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Your location question in GPS apps like Navigon and Maps
Reply-To: viph...@googlegroups.com

Hi,

A couple of weeks ago a new user asked about getting location as a street address or intersection, and was pointed to i-map-u (by me for U.S. locations), A1 GPS Pro (by Brett, for locations outside of the U.S.), and by using the "IconWhereAmI" button in App Genie (by Mark). Geoff pointed out that Navigon's MobileNavigator also gives this information if you double click on the "More" button and then double click the "DirectHelp" option, where you'll get a message giving "Your approximated position" as an address as well as estimated distance from an intersection, and the latitude and longitude that most apps that "tell you your location" seem to provide. (This feature presumably works for other countries, though we haven't heard back a report from other Navigon users outside the U.S. It doesn't have the one click convenience of i-map-u, but does provide you with your current location without your having to exit the Navigon app.)

Investigating the "Maps" app in more detail showed it is also possible to get your current location announced, but may be a little trickier. On the main map routing page, once you've set up a route, the central map shows pins for the location of your starting and ending location, but also a pin for "Current Location". If you flick to or touch the "Current Location" pin, VO will announce "Current Location, shows more info". Double tap, then touch the screen above the "Current Location" pin. I hear VO announce two lines: first, "Current Location" and then below that an approximate street location associated with the Current Location (e.g., it might be a range of street numbers, like 123-127 XXX St). Flick left and there will be a "Street View" button. Double tapping the "Street View" button gives a Landscape street view image. (You won't really use this, but the label at the top -- once you've rotated your iPhone 90 degrees to landscape mode -- announces the address. In the above example it will just be the middle number in the range of addresses. This information is only given out of completeness, unless you can view the image.) Double tap the "Done" button at the top right (in landscape mode) to return to the map screen with focus on the current location information. If you flick right there is a "More Info" button that gives an info screen with some options that are similar to what you get from the AroundMe "More Info" (buttons for "Directions to Here", "Directions From Here", "Add to Contacts", "Share Location", and "Add to Bookmarks"). Double tap the "Map" button in the top left to return to the map page. Again, this information is only given for completeness, since you typically won't want to do anything except check out what this button does.

Note that the current location information is only viewable from map mode. If you double tap the "Settings" button in the bottom right corner so that you can change the view mode from "map" to "list" in order to get a simple turn-by-turn summary list of directions you won't be able to query current position.

This was actually an instance where having the default WiFi access for the iPod Touch made it a little easier to check out this feature. If you don't use your GPS location the difference between the position of the start position pin and the "Current Position" pin is large enough so that if you move your finger around the start position on the map you'll find the second pin for "Current Position". I'd be curious to learn whether an iPhone user can track their current position this way in the Maps app. The map view is supposed to be centered on the route steps, but I don't know how easy it is to find the current position pin in the different travel stage maps. Incidentally, the current location position guess that Google returns seems more accurate than the Navigon location in the "DirectHelp" option.

Cheers,

Esther

Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

I want to experiment more with this. Is it actually possible to get live updated textual directions, rather than having to advance forward? During my quick exploration of the application, it didn't seem possible, however, it probably is I'd hope. I also did not have a lot of time to try it out. I wonder if the bus route works internationally, I'd imagine so. That'd definitely help me a lot.

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On Apr 8, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Karen,

You asked about getting navigating directions in the Maps app, and said that "no directions were spoken". The Maps app doesn't automatically announce directions with text to speech the way GPS apps like Navigon's MobileNavigator do, but it displays directions on the screen that you can read off. They're listed just below the buttons for choosing method of travel (e.g., "directions by car", "directions by bus", "directions by walking") at the top of the screen, at the location you heard the 2.0 miles and 7 minutes travel time estimate, and the map of the route is shown below. Once you double tap the "Start" button, the header changes to let you navigate the legs of your journey. For example, instead of the buttons for method of travel you might hear "1 of 8" and if you touch the screen just below that you'll hear directions like "Head north-east on Street A towards Avenue B". The map below the directions update to show the portion of the route that is described. At the upper right of the screen, in place of the "Start" button, there's now a "Forward" button, and to the left of it a "Back" button. Double tapping the "Forward" button advances you to the next leg, so the header will read "2 of 8" and the directions below the header might read "Drive 154 feet then turn left at C Street". Your husband would be able to view the map zoomed in to follow the detailed routing at each stage, with the streets highlighted. Using the "Forward" and "Back" buttons let you navigate your route. To review the series of directions for the whole route, double tap the "Settings" button at the bottom right, then move your finger up to the "List" button and double tap. This will give you a route overview, with list of directions that you read off for each stage. Double tapping any of the listed entries will take you back to map view mode for that leg of your journey, and you can use the "Forward" and "Back" buttons.

I also found that it was easier to learn how to use this app and routing for maps by starting from the free AroundMe app, which lets you select a a location and then, when you double tap the "more info" button for your selection displayed in a map, lets you send that information to Google Maps in the correct format for finding directions when you double tap the "Show Route" button and double tap "Maps" as the destination. This let me separate out the issue of how to enter addresses and starting/ending points from using the directions, since AroundMe assumes your starting point will be your current location. (I'm using an iPod Touch, by the way.)

I'll also paste in the directions that Kristyn posted to the list back in November, and cc: this post to the Macvisionaries list so I can find it again. Without the easy to search and link archiving that is used there, if I can't quickly find or don't have time to type in an answer when they show up, I'll let posts go in hopes that someone else can help. I'd really like for this list to be archived at the secondary Mail Archive site for easy searching, linking, and reading down threads with access keys that work for multiple platforms and browsers.

HTH. Pasted post is below my signature.

Cheers,

Esther

Begin forwarded message:

From: Kristyn Leigh <krist...@gmail.com>
Date: 25 November 2009
To: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: maps app
Reply-To: viph...@googlegroups.com

Wow! I just discovered that choosing “directions by bus” also gives train and light rail info.

I think the first time you open the app it asks to use your current location and it shows it on the map if you select OK. There are 4 buttons at the bottom. They are start tracking, search, directions, and settings.

1.       Choose “directions.”
2. Fill in the “start” and “end” fields. You have the option to select from your address book. 3. Double tap the “route” button in the bottom right corner if you did not choose a destination from your address book. 4. You will return to the map. There are buttons near the top for “directions by car,” “directions by bus,” and “directions by walking.” 5. If you choose “directions by bus,” it will give the departure and arrival times. 6. If you choose the “start” button, you will get the first direction in the turn-by-turn directions. I usually choose “list” so I can preview the route. The other options are “map,” “satellite,” “show traffic,” and “hybrid.” 7. If the choices listed above don’t appear on the screen, choose “settings” from the buttons at the bottom and you will find the view choices. Sometimes it takes a few seconds to refresh the screen. 8. When traveling, tap the button in the lower left corner that says “start tracking.” After you press it, it says “start tracking with heading.” Sometimes I have to press that button again during a route.

If anyone figures out how to drop a pin to mark a location, please let me know.

Kristyn

Karen Poulakos wrote:

I posted a question yesterday, and haven't seen a reply, so thought I'd try again.

I decided to try out the maps app which came installed on my IPhone for the first time, when my husband and I were driving to visit a friend. I entered our address as the starting point, and our friend's address as the destination. I then tapped the button for getting directions. I then read the screen to find that our destination was 2.0 miles, and approximately 7 minutes in traffic. There were no textual directions that I could find. My husband said that there was a map on the screen.

I then found a start button and tapped that, but still no directions were spoken.

I thought I had read on this list that some of you had been successful in using this app. Would someone be willing to share a few tips for making it work?

Thanks,

Karen P


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