Hi,
I was talking with Accessibility help today and we found the problem was I had 
turned on Quick Nav. I don’t use that so I did not think of it.
Max.

> On 19 Dec 2022, at 01:09, manyofus1...@outlook.com wrote:
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> I haven’t noticed this issue happening to me, but then, my mac is not updated 
> to ventura.
> shirley
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> Subject: Opening collapsed messages in Mail
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> Hi all, 
> when in mail messages I used to be able to open a collapsed  conversation by 
> using right arrow to expand the list of messages.
> I now find I must VO + space to open that list. This is just a slower way of 
> doing things in my appinion.
> Is this just me or is it Ventura 13.1?
> Thanks as always for any advice.
> Max.
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