I have to admit, I find browsing with the Mac to be a different experience from doing it with Windows, but I'm learning it, and I can do what I want now. What is weird is that I have downloaded a few applications, and I never even knew they were downloaded. Granted, they were small, but I was amazed to find them completed and ready to use. I never got into web browsing with the iPhone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic" <vtsa...@gmail.com> To: "MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:11 AM Subject: Re: Used an iPad today
Hi, We have an iPad "in the house". <grin> I have a good chance to play a fair bit with it. I think this is a great device and gives you a sneak peek into the assistive technology of the future. In some ways Apple is challenging us, blind folks, by pushing the envelope farther and farther as far as the user interface and interaction are concerned. When you start interactign with the iPad for the first time, you will realize a lot of difficulties with finding things and orienting yourself because 1. the layout for various screens is different from those on the iPhone. 2. You will be dealing with a much larger screen estate, and this is no small joke, believe me. 3. While Apple generally maintains a fairly consistent user interface in their own apps, i.e. with panes being on the left and on the right, you will quickly find that 3rd-party apps will be less consistent and offer much more customized layouts (more scrolling and touching for the blind user). 4. It is a problem on the iPhone, and it is also observed on the iPad, that Voiceover is not very good at alerting the user about the changes on the screen. Yes, you do get beeps and such, but you still do not know whether the new content appeared on the left, right, top, bottom or in the middle of the screen. So you end up "fingering around" a lot to figure out what actually happened. 5. ...And the most painful issue for me personally. Browsing o neither iPhone or iPad is just not up to the task compared to Snow Leopard, for example. Since one of the primary uses for the iPad is browsing the web, this is actually the big show-stopper for me personally. In fact, as far as the web support is concerned, nothing much has changed since the iPhone days and that saddens me. These are just some of my thoughts. Vic Blake Sinnett wrote: > Seems like the smart people are making universal apps. This is what > everyone should do. > > > From: bryansm...@bryansmart.com > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:47:00 -0400 > > Subject: RE: Used an iPad today > > > > Yep, and your iPhone will have a much smaller screen, and won't be able > > to run the same software the same way with as much power. > > > > Right now, people are making their iPhone apps run on the iPad. > > Eventually, though, the new iPad apps will need to be scaled down in > > order to be ported back to the iPhone. > > > > Bryan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:25 PM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Used an iPad today > > > > Also consider how often wifi will be available. networks might be all > > over the place, but most of them nowadays are secured, sow aht si the > > use? 3G is ok, but you've got an iPhone for that, so again, it's a > > mistake for the consumer side. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Olivia Norman" <olivianor...@gmail.com> > > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: Used an iPad today > > > > > > > Interesting. I find portrait mode works better I considered the 3g > > > version, but thought I didn't need both that and an iPhone. > > > Olivia > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Bryan Smart <bryansm...@bryansmart.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> I'd ordered the 3G model, so will be waiting a few more weeks yet, > > >> but I had some time to play with a WiFi model today. > > >> > > >> Generally, it's an iPhone. However, besides the screen size being > > >> increased, the interface has increased in complexity, also. Apple is > > >> certainly using the extra space to expand on what is possible with > > >> an iPhone type touch interface. > > >> > > >> It took me only very little time to discover that portrait mode > > >> (which lots of sighted users select), is probably not the best for a > > >> blind person. When you're working with two hands, having more > > >> horizontal room seems to make more of a difference when navigating. > > >> Fortunately, it is a snap to try either way to see what works for > > >> you. > > >> > > >> I absolutely agree with the posters that were talking about the > > >> horrible oversight about the back plate of the iPad. It is almost > > >> nothing but shiny aluminum. You're supposed to be able to set the > > >> iPad on a table to use it, but I promise, the first time that you > > >> place it on any table that isn't absolutely clear of small dirt > > >> particles, you'll pic it up to discover that the slight motion of > > >> you pushing and sliding the iPad has ground the dirt particles in to > > >> the back, and scratched the hell out of your shiny aluminum back > > >> plate. Of course, you can buy the case to fix that. the case is a > > >> type of thin and stiff coated particle board that feels a lot like a > > >> traditional print notebook. One side snugly holds the iPad, and the > > >> other side is a flap that covers the iPad screen when closed. I > > >> suppose that most people will want the case to protect the screen > > >> when traveling, anyway. If you go without the case, though, you are > > >> absolutely asking for it. Apple could have put something on the back > > >> to make the iPad more stable. Maybe not rubber feet, but they could > > >> have gone with a felt square in the center, a stylized strip of some > > >> high friction material, etc. The curved back will insure that the > > >> iPad wobbles on the table, and the glossy case will absolutely > > >> scratch. > > >> > > >> VoiceOver sounded about the same, and responded with the same speed, > > >> pretty much. The speaker was very clear. Didn't get to play music > > >> with it, but I hear the bass is poor. Still, speech is pretty good > > >> through the built-in speakers. > > >> > > >> However, it seemed to me that iPad programs opened more slowly than > > >> on the iPhone. Maybe there is more information to load? However, > > >> with more memory and a faster processor, I wasn't expecting that. > > >> > > >> I wasn't dramatically blown away by the applications that were > > >> available on it, but working with a big talking touch screen > > >> interface started me dreaming about things that *could* be > > >> accomplished with a device like that. Many people might not need the > > >> iPad for web surfing or checking e-mail, but I think that, > > >> eventually, there will be some very unique uses for the iPad. > > >> > > >> Bryan > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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