Hi, Donna: This is a brief follow up to my cautionary tale. I'm pleased to report that things have settled back to normal on my Mac Mini running Ventura. I've no idea why the strange behavior. I could speculate that some of the last steps of updating might occur when you launch a particular application for the first time under the new environment. For me that would explain what I was seeing yesterday and why things are back to usual today.
Still, I think the moral of the story is the same. Don't do it on a business day when you've no time for surprises. Perhaps look for a couple of relatively free days like a weekend, or perhaps the upcoming Thanksgiving holliday (if you're in the U.S.). PS: I also got speech back on my misbehaving Airbook. I figured out to launch terminal and start some music playing, which I can do without speech from a terminal window. Thereafter the three-finger double tap works as expected. Go figure! Best, Janina 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: > Hi Janina, > > What you describe is exactly why I often wait till summer to upgrade. It’s > so frustrating to be trying to get something done, and be bogged down by > Apple ****. I really don’t think they get that we just need things to work. > They can introduce whatever new feature, but if you are a busy working > person, you don’t necessarily have hours to sit down and read about all the > commands that have changed, and the different ways you have to get things > done. I’m not saying change is bad, but more and more I feel like I need to > take a few days off from life every time there’s an Apple upgrade, just so I > can read about how things work in the new OS. I don’t have time for that. > Cheers, > Donna > > > On Oct 28, 2022, at 6:42 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I'm rather wishing I'd waited. I'm upgraded yesterday, so have limited > > experience. But I had issues just getting applications list to work as > > expected under Finder today--right when I didn't need the headache of > > systems not working as expected. > > > > Then there are those wonderful notifications wanting to inform you of > > all the marvelous new features, in Mail for instance. Well, I'd like to > > read up on those, but I was in a hurry to click a particular Zoom link > > that I knew was in my inbox today. So, as you can guess, reading up on > > new features was not timely. > > > > My very ancient, nearly ten year old Airbook had fewer issues (so far) > > upgrading to the latest Big Sur. Fewer issues that is until I again > > accidentally tripped Speech Off on the trackpad. <groan> This is a > > problem I encounter on that machine off and on. At the moment I don't > > have a braille display to resolve things. But, I'm not sure I can blame > > this on the Big Sur upgrade. Still, I wish I could turn that trackpad > > off, as one can on Windows. > > > > Best, > > > > Janina > > > > 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> As some of you may remember, I teach, so I am often hesitant to upgrade my > >> Mac during the academic year. In addition, I did not have good > >> experiences with upgrades to IOS 16 or Watch 9, so I’m especially gun-shy > >> about upgrade to Ventura? I know that everyone’s mileage may vary, but > >> based on your experiences thus far, should I upgrade or not? > >> TIA, > >> Donna. > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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