This is true, but my point stands, if they're going to make these gui tools, 
why not make them accessible, regardless of the fact that it can be done with 
the cli
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  From: Chris Blouch 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:31 PM
  Subject: Re: -- snow leopard server


  Back in the early days it was all command line (terminal) driven anyway so 
there really isn't much that can't be done that way. It's just going to be 
easier to  click the start button next to Websharing in the gui than to bring 
up the terminal and type /usr/sbin/apachectl stop. Similar things for server 
which makes admin easier with the GUI tools. That said, I suspect they would 
make the apps accessible, but I haven't tired it and I don't know anyone who 
has actually paid out for the more expensive OSX Server.

  CB

  Cody wrote: 
    The idea does not sit with me that apple would produce an application or 
set of utilities for network management that were not accessible my guess is 
that they are. If this is the case, could you imagine what implications that 
could have on blindness network administration?
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chris Blouch 
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:39 PM
      Subject: Re: -- snow leopard server


      From what I've read in the past the main differences with server are some 
nice GUI configuration tools and more services turned on by default. That means 
that with regular OSX you can do pretty much the same thing if you don't mind 
playing around in terminal a bit and are good with search engines. For web 
servers there is a common appliance viewpoint called LAMP or Linux, Apache, 
MySQL and PHP. The standard Mac already has all these things, just not all 
turned on, so there is very little in the web dev world you couldn't do on a 
stock Mac or MAMP setup. Macs also include an SSH server so you can ssh into 
another Mac and execute commands remotely. While all the users/groups/rights 
stuff would probably be easier with a GUI on OSX server, there is nothing 
preventing anyone from doing the same thing the old fashion way on plain old 
OSX.

      CB

      David McLean wrote: 
According to Gordon Smith on the Mac access list it is not very accessible and 
you'd be better off sticking with Snow Leopard.
On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

  Hi Listers,

I've just been looking at the mac mini server machine that is being
advertised on the apple website.

A mac mini 2.53 processor with 4gig ram and runningt the snow leopard
server os.

Has anyone used this OS and how usable is it with voice over?

Simon  

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