Honestly the idea of having to hold down the vo keys, a shift key and the / to reach a question mark? Practice, and finding the ability to make voice changes is helping. besides this is a mid 2012 machine, the one just past the one I desired, but at least not dangerous to use voice wise. Here is hoping I can blend voice control of some vo commands as I am told is possible for some things.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Also, the user???s guide can be reached with Ctrl-Option-Question mark.
Apple announced that there would be new voice options in Mac OS Ventura. I 
don???t know whether any of those might be more intelligible for your purposes.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>
Date: Wednesday, 15June, 2022 at 18:42
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: onboard tutorial revisited.
Hi Tim,
That got it, the reference just was not spoken clearly.  using a new voice
as well, but glad it is here.
Kare



On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Try VO-cmd-f8, that is, ctrl-option-cmd-F8.

Later???????


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 15, 2022, at 13:52, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Well, now that the log in request is gone, I can hopefully get started learning 
my mac better.
save that the tutorial I am anticipating seems to be missing?
to be clear, this goes back several editions, in the voiceover utility menu 
there was a tutorial with a voice guiding one through learning basic keystrokes 
and navigation.  This voice differed from  say what I assume is Alex, and helps 
you learn how things work.
However when I choose what has to be function-vo-8 to reach the utility I 
cannot find the tutorial.
Granted, I am still getting used tot his voice, and may not simply understand 
it well yet.
Still, what am I missing?  lastly, is there a command which reviews last 
information provided by voiceover? I suppose good old fashioned screen review 
may be missing smiles.
Thanks,
Karen



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