When programming, coders usually have access to the accessible text for the 
menu items.  At least, when I programmed in DotNet for Windows they did.  I 
expect it is the same or similar on Mac.  

So, you would put in the text that you wish to show, select the different key 
combinations for any shortcuts and then set your accessible text to provide 
clues to the user.

Jeff


> On Apr 4, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com> wrote:
> 
> My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out 
> something interesting today. Apparently, VO announces menu access shortcuts 
> in a different order than the symbols are presented on the screen. For 
> instance, in Mail, for Forward (on the Message menu) VO says Command-Shift-F, 
> while the graphic shows the symbol for Shift first, then the pinwheel-like 
> symbol for Command, then the F. In the thirteen years I've used VO with 
> MacOS, starting with Leopard and then Snow Leopard, I've never known or 
> noticed this. In fact, I've never bothered to learn the shapes of the graphic 
> symbols for Shift (which I think is an up-pointing arrow), Command (the 
> pinwheel), Option (which I think is a wavy line or lines), or Control (which 
> I don't know at all). Would appreciate some confirmation and claraification 
> on those. But isn't it interesting that VO reads them in a different order, 
> which means it's not really reading anything at all--it's just reading the 
> text from a symbols dictionary for certain things.
> 
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