My 14-inch MacBook Pro has a row of full-sized function keys. The Escape key is 
wider than the function keys, and there is no extra space between any of the 
groups of keys on the top row.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on 
behalf of Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 10:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: My MacBook Pro 2013 is on it’s very last leg in need some advice
Yes, to be specific, the new 14 inch and 16 inch MacBook pros do not have a 
TouchBar. neither does the MacBook Air.
Only the low end 13 inch MacBook Pro still has a TouchBar.
it is my guess that Apple will probably quietly do away with this model at some 
point in the not too distant future.
- Brad -

On Nov 30, 2021, at 09:40, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, the newest MacBook Pros have eliminated the Touch Bar.  I’m also sceptical 
as to whether you’d be able to even replace the keyboard on a MacBook Pro of 
that era now, especially with the present supply chain issues.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On Nov 29, 2021, at 21:42, Joseph Hudson 
<jhud7...@twc.com<mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote:


Sent from my iPhone good evening ladies and gentlemen, I currently have a 
MacBook Pro 13, that I bought at the middle of 23rd. And I have appreciated the 
thing to its hearts content. Here recently, I’ve had to perform very little 
maintenance on the machine. I replaced a part of the keyboard once already, and 
I’m almost wondering if it’s worth to do it once again, considering that it is 
still in good shape. I believe before, it was my control an option that stopped 
working on me. But now we’re to the point now where the quick navigation keys 
is something that I use on a daily basis, and I don’t want to have to haul 
around two keyboards. As I carry this computer with me whenever I go somewhere. 
And don’t need more stuff in my computer bag. I like the old style layout that 
we’ve had for a while on these MacBook Pro‘s. And I’m wondering, if I can get 
something that is equivalent to what I currently have now for a good bang for 
my buck I know a lot of these computers now, have the Touch Bar. But it’s 
definitely not something I’m interested in. So any advice other than that is 
very much appreciate it and while we’re here, what’s the easiest way to reset 
the Mac, as I think I may need to wipe it before I give it to Apple. Or should 
I just let them wipe it. I only have the use of my one hand so doing a 
constraining is keystroke is definitely not in my future. Thanks for any advice 
you could give.

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