I think that we should avoid running Windows on Mac and Mac on Windows. Having used both operating systems to some degree, I've learned that each one works best in their native environments. I find Mac's supported apps limited and wish I could run more IOS apps on the Mac. I have to use two devices to get the same things accomplished that I could do on Windows. To be fair though, I'm not familiar with Pages. I hope OCR continues to improve. Use both operating systems if you depend on technology for work.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Muhammad Fayed Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 8:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Silicon vs Intel x86 for Voiceover users on Mac What is meant by running Mac OS on windows is that you have a windows machine, and create Mac OS virtual machine using whatever virtualization software. This has a couple of issues: 1. It is illegal. As the user agreement of Mac OS, you should not run Mac OS on any non Apple machine. I don’t remember the exact text, but it is easily understandable. 2. It is very slow compared to getting a Mac machine and run windows on it using virtualization. HTH, Mohamed E. Fayed > On 25 Oct 2021, at 7:06 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Sorry, I don’t know what you mean by “running Mac on Windows”. > > You can already virtualise (that is, create a virtual environment for) and > dual-boot (that is, reboot and then start as though on a PC) Windows. Macs > make very fine Windows machines either way, providing you understand the > limitations of the hardware and driver support. Modern Windows is very > power-efficient and if you configure it correctly it can run every bit as > nicely as macOS, although on notebooks with discrete GPUs Apple has always > prejudiced the integrated GPU (there are workarounds, if you know where to > look). > > I mostly run Apple stock apps on my Macs, but the bulk of it is in Linux VMs > or Terminal. Any consideration to move exclusively to Apple Silicon would > mean, for me, deciding which platform was the lesser evil for essentially > day-to-day apps; I would simply have to have (and carry about) multiple > machines, otherwise. Right now my iMac does the work, and runs both platforms > well, but I don’t boot Windows very often at all and it might simply be time > to leave Windows behind altogether when travelling. Alternatively, of course, > I purchase a cheap Apple Silicon notebook for the few (and, I’ll be honest, > generally less important) things macOS does well, and begin the painful > transition back to Windows full-time. I’m not sure which, yet. Given that my > VMs are Linux, and Windows now has WSL for Linux command-line software, it’s > actually not an easy call to make any more—I think the reason I’m stuck to > macOS is mostly familiarity and the overall experience, but it clearly also > has limitations that would be amplified by Apple Silicon and not having > Windows around as rescue, however infrequently that actually happens. > > I don’t know the accessibility status of Windows 365, but I don’t really > fancy renting my computer in the cloud. My beef with Windows as a platform > isn’t such that I’d avoid it at all costs, but realistically I’d have to use > it on a day to day basis and the cloud isn’t good value for that. > > Cheers, > Sabahattin > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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