Note also that Linux is coming to the Mac M1 machines, too. The progress made so far in that direction is impressive, and it doesn’t require virtualization (although you can run a virtual machine as an alternative, if you prefer). From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rebecca Skipper <skipper8...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, October 22, 2021 at 14:06
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Silicon vs Intel x86 for Voiceover users on Mac Well, Some people still want to install windows on a Mac machine, but I agree with David Woodbridge. It is best to use operating systems in their native environments. From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 2:04 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Silicon vs Intel x86 for Voiceover users on Mac I certainly find macbook air with silicon chip is far superior to the intel based ones Much faster & more responsive. I should be able to comment some time in November, assuming that the 14-inch MacBook Pro that I ordered this week is delivered as scheduled. I’m upgrading from a late 2013 model 13-inch MacBook Pro. What I’ve heard (for example, in podcasts by David Woodbridge) is that the performance of VoiceOver is superior with the new hardware architecture, with fewer “busy” messages, for instance. I definitely have experience with Apple Silicon both on my MacBook Pro with M1 and on iMac. It is difficult to specifically compare with Intel I9 processor models,, as I’ve never used one with those specs. I can tell you though that using an Intel MacBook Air 2020 in comparison to my MBP is a big improvement in performance. Most “Busy” things that happen to me are because I tend to be impatient with key strokes on on the web. I’ll press on a link, then start attempting to move around the screen with VO. That’s when it goes busy. If I just wait for the link to load, then navigate, then life is better.
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada My question is general I think it would be best to reply based on whatever experiences users have.
For example, I want M1/M1Pro/M1Max vs latest intel i9 processor on a MacBook Pro.
If the generations are older then it would make more sense to consider Apple silicon vs 2019 16” model, 2016 15” and maybe 2012 model, whatever the sizes then.
I think that would make more sense.
Personally, I have MBP 2016 15” with 2133MHz RAM. I work in the office on iMac 2020 27” with core I5 the base model, 3.1GHz 6 core i5 with 2666MHz RAM. The Latter feel snappier in usage, but not with large margin although I have migrated my data from MBP to iMac and both have the same 512GB storage. The storage in iMac may be much faster. I don’t know exact details.
In regards to specifications, Apple silicon in every way regarding specifications. I just want to know whether it makes a difference in Voiceover user or not and which makes the most difference.
I’m not thinking of getting a new Mac for now because of budget, but I have interest to answer these questions.
I may just go to Apple reseller in my city and try devices out. I think that may be the answer to my inquiries in case no-one here has experience with Apple Silicon and is an old Mac user.
Thank you so much,
Mohamed E. Fayed
On 21 Oct 2021, at 3:50 PM, Herbie Allen <herbieal...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think a lot of your questions depend on the age of the Mac For instance, I’m running two Macs, one from 2012 and another from 2019. The 2012 runs slowly while my souped up 2019 Mac runs like a charm with none of the issues you are concerned about. I would love to test these newer Mac’s myself since this one is extremely fast and efficient already.
On Oct 21, 2021, at 06:18, Muhammad Fayed <m10fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,,
Hope my mail finds you well,
Out of curiosity, I wonder how it matters to use Apple Silicon compared to Intel devices.
• Is it faster to deal with Apple Silicon Mac and more responsive compared to older Macs?
• Does Voiceover says “busy” much less ?
• Does image description feature runs faster?
• Are there any other differences than those I expected?
Thank you so much,
Regards,
Mohamed E. Fayed
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