Good point about the OCR and other apps that use artificial intelligence and the neural engine.
I have not noticed any significant lag when VoiceOver tries to describe images in apps using the SE 2020 IN IOS 14. I’d consider the Mini iPhones if it had touch ID. That is more important to me than power since I have a M1 mac and a Windows PC capable of scanning documents. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I think this is very much a question of personal preference. I understand what you’re saying, but I like my devices to run fast. Patience is not one of my greatest virtues. So, is there any app that wouldn’t run on the SE? Probably not. Will those apps run faster on a 13 mini? Undoubtedly. And personally, that’s something I care about. Not saying everyone has to care about that, but I do. Also, as Apple does more with screen recognition, AI, and spatial audio, the more powerful phones will be able to make better use of those features. Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:05 AM, <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: Why do you feel you need the extra power? I find the SE very responsive, and sometimes users do not need the latest phones to accomplish the tasks they need. Is there an app that you can’t run on the SE? Apple is like any other company in that they can’t produce something new every year that no one has seen before. Sometimes, it is just upgrades. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a good idea to pause and ask yourself if this is really something worth buying based on your own needs. The older iPad 5th generation was something new that I had not used before, and I wanted something with better sound quality. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less power than the other phones. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. 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