Hello Slau and Kimberly,

If you check "allow voiceover to be controlled by apple scripts" which is found 
in Vo utilities under general, the problem should no longer exist.

hth
On Mar 29, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

> I've also noticed that this tends to draw focus away from VoiceOver. Instead 
> of restarting VoiceOver, try using one of the Orientation commands like VO-F1 
> and that always seems to regain voiceOver's focus.
> 
> HTH
> 
> On Mar 29, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I began using the script for telling time (option T) where I use the right 
>> option key on my Macbook Pro.  I've noticed that when I use this while in 
>> Mail, VO stops and I have to do command F5 a few times to restart it.  Any 
>> thoughts as to why this happens?  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Kim
>> On Mar 28, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks all for the help and insite.
>>> 
>>> Tc.
>>> On Mar 28, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sara, there is info out there on scripting and there is even a book. I do 
>>>> not have anything bookmarked, but someone will have that info for sure. 
>>>> ONce you learn to write scripts, you can pretty much do what you want.
>>>> On Mar 28, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I want to learn how to script. I am using a script that is not that 
>>>>> accessible with voice over. is there a way I can modify that script to 
>>>>> make ti work better?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not a scripting expert, but honestly, no you do not need it at all. 
>>>>>> In fact there is only one script I use and that is to get the current 
>>>>>> time. Sure I can get it easily from the menu, but what the heck, it's 
>>>>>> there. The scripting abilities are valuable in terms of expanding VO's 
>>>>>> functionality. I do not see scripting in VO used to always work around a 
>>>>>> problem with an application, but I imagine it could help in some cases. 
>>>>>> I agree, there is no need to start a pissing contest over whether 
>>>>>> scripting in a screen reader makes sense or not because everyone has 
>>>>>> their own opinions on this subject. I will say that it is there and 
>>>>>> considering what you can do with a script, I'm all for leaving it there. 
>>>>>> And yes, to the best of my knowledge, it is Apple scripting. SO, the use 
>>>>>> of scripts can far exceed the "work-around" for an app, which is evident 
>>>>>> by the say time script.
>>>>>> Hope that helps some.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2010, at 3:42 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi list, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am currently listening to the latest Mac Accessibility podcast about 
>>>>>>> scripting, and I am very  confused. Well, I may just be stupid, but 
>>>>>>> I'll let you decide after I ask this question...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How is scripting VO different from scripting other Screen Readers? I'm 
>>>>>>> asking this because the group just made a very interesting point that 
>>>>>>> with other Screen Readers, when an application or part of an 
>>>>>>> application doesn't work properly, someone writes a script for it. If 
>>>>>>> the application then gets upgraded and the script no longer works, 
>>>>>>> people are not sure what to do to fix it aside from getting the script 
>>>>>>> again. Surely this is the same with VO - most general users would not 
>>>>>>> know what to do except for the scripter? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, is VO scripting different from Apple Script?
>>>>>>> Josh has also said that we don't necessarily need the scripting 
>>>>>>> capability of VO. Why is this? When I've used other Screen Readers, I 
>>>>>>> used very few scripts if any and still got all the info I needed?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not trying to start a flame war, and I apologise to the moderators 
>>>>>>> if this is off-topic.
>>>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TC
>>>>>>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
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