Hello bryan, As it's late and my eyes are starting to close, I'll keep this short.
1. There is a vast difference between using Skype on the iPhone and my Netbook. I think the biggest difference is that I have complete mobility within my hotel room. For example, It's a simple thing to make and receive calls just lying in bed without having to worry about headset and keyboards. 2. Skype is just one reason for wanting to have wifi access on the iPhone. 3. Most of the calls I make on Skype are international. 4. As for data plans, I'm not paying for wifi on behalf of the phone; it's just an added feature. And, with or without a phone I would insist on having secure broadband access on any computer with which I travel. So, given that I would always have an air card and the fact that wifi is free, I am not paying any redundant fees. It's really a matter of practicality; said practicality being in the eye of the beholder, as it were. The hotel in which I am staying offers free WiFi but, as you know, their wifi is not secure. When I checked into the hotel, I was given a couple of sheets of paper explaining how to logon to the network. I think this is a nice feature of the hotel but I would always prefer to use my private air card. Good Night. Mark -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:33 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Reversing My Thinking Never Felt So Good On The iPhone 3GS I guess that's interesting in sort of a theoretical tech way, but I don't really see the point. You're paying for two data plans (AT&T and Verizon), which is probably costing you at least $90 a month for both of the mobile data plans, not counting your regular wireless calling charges. You can use Skype without being near a hot spot, but you must have your laptop powered up, connected to wireless data, its wireless network reconfigured to ad-hoc, and connect the iPhone to the laptop's wireless. Then, you can use Skype on the iPhone, true, but, after all of that, you might as well be running it on the laptop. Running it on the laptop would just involve starting the laptop, connecting to Verizon, and running Skype. Maybe you mean to say that you only use the iPhone's Wifi connection, but I don't see how this is so. I don't think that AT&T gives you the option of not paying for a data service with the iPhone. You must pay for the $30 data. For $100, you can get unlimited iPhone data and voice calls. Then, you can talk all you want. No need for Skype. Your battery will also last longer. That isn't capable of cheap international calls, but, like I said above, if you must use the laptop to gain access to Skype for the iPhone, you might as well be running Skype on the laptop. I suppose that you're using the iPhone as a wireless modem by using the tethering profiles for download on that Austrian web site that have been passed around. Of course, Apple helpfully blocked that out for AT&T in the latest OS update. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Reversing My Thinking Never Felt So Good On The iPhone 3GS Hello My Fellow iPhone and iPod Touchers, As some of you may know, later today, Wednesday, I will be trekking down to San Diego to attend the CSUN convention. As you may guess, I would never go anywhere without a reliable means of connecting to the Internet on one of my portable computers. However, since my assimilation into the Apple Orchard, it is not enough to merely have broadband access on my computer but I now insist on having it (as WiFi) on my trusty iPhone 3GS for many reasons not the least of which being that I now, almost exclusively, use it for Skype on a daily basis. Truthfully, after having use the app on my iPhone 3GS, the thought of being tethered to my computer albeit either a notebook or a Netbook in order to use Skype comfortably, is almost laughable. But Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!! Currently, one cannot use Skype, on the iPhone that is, via Edge or 3G; that is to say, it can only be used via WiFi. What to do? I'm sitting here typing this and laughing out loud at the thought, that, since the iPhone 3GS' release last July, I haven't seen any articles or received any request for assistance on the dilemma I found myself in as I prepared to go where many have gone before, until just a few days ago. (Smile) What I mean to say is that as of the date of its release, virtually everyone wanted a way to tether their computer to the iPhone, using it like a high speed broadband MODEM, an almost effortless feat to achieve on my beloved Samsung Epix Windows Mobile phone. (Big, big smile) (That was for all you Apple Koolade drinkers!!!) Not to brag, but like many, without having to jail break the device, I was able to turn my iPhone 3GS into a broadband MODEM within mere days of its purchase. You see, the trick was... But I digress. Sorry. Getting Back To The Point: Unlike previous trips, this time I wish to continue to use my mobile device (the iPhone) in the same way I use it here at home on my wireless network. Get it? You see, instead of wanting the iPhone to act as an Internet conduit for my computer, I want the computer to act as a WiFi hotspot (conduit) for my iPhone. This concept is referred to as "Reverse Tethering". My Solution? In addition to being an A T & T Wireless customer, I am also a Verizon Wireless customer and as such, I have a Verizon Wireless Air Card. It is generally accepted that the Verizon wireless Air Cards (via EVDO) provide noticeably faster data access than does A T & T Wireless. To be honest, this is the primary reason I continue to subscribe to Verizon Wireless. Although I am blessed to have several portable computers from which to choose, the only two I seriously considered taking with me were my MacBook Pro 13-inch or my Acer (Aspire One), 7-inch Windows 7 Ultimate Netbook. Of course, my Verizon Wireless Air Card works beautifully on them both. As a side note, "yes" the Air Card works on my MacBook either in Snow Leopard, in a Windows 7 Virtual machine, or in Windows 7 via BootCamp. Because of the much more convenient size of the Acer and its substantially lesser value, I chose it over the MacBook Pro. Oh! I almost forgot. 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