Hello bryan,

As it's late and my eyes are starting to close, I'll keep this short.

1.
There is a vast difference between using Skype on the iPhone and my Netbook.
I think the biggest difference is that I have complete mobility within my
hotel room.  For example, It's a simple thing to make and receive calls just
lying in bed without having to worry about headset and keyboards.  

2.
Skype is just one reason for wanting to have wifi access on the iPhone.  

3.
Most of the calls I make on Skype are international.

4.
As for data plans, I'm not paying for wifi on behalf of the phone; it's just
an added feature.  And, with or without a phone I would insist on having
secure broadband access on any computer with which I travel.  So, given that
I would always have an air card and the fact that wifi is free, I am not
paying any redundant fees.

It's really a matter of practicality; said practicality being in the eye of
the beholder, as it were.

The hotel in which I am staying offers free WiFi but, as you know, their
wifi is not secure.

When I checked into the hotel, I was given a couple of sheets of paper
explaining how to logon to the network.  I think this is a nice feature of
the hotel but I would always prefer to use my private air card.

Good Night.

Mark







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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:33 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reversing My Thinking Never Felt So Good On The iPhone 3GS

I guess that's interesting in sort of a theoretical tech way, but I don't
really see the point.

You're paying for two data plans (AT&T and Verizon), which is probably
costing you at least $90 a month for both of the mobile data plans, not
counting your regular wireless calling charges. You can use Skype without
being near a hot spot, but you must have your laptop powered up, connected
to wireless data, its wireless network reconfigured to ad-hoc, and connect
the iPhone to the laptop's wireless. Then, you can use Skype on the iPhone,
true, but, after all of that, you might as well be running it on the laptop.
Running it on the laptop would just involve starting the laptop, connecting
to Verizon, and running Skype.

Maybe you mean to say that you only use the iPhone's Wifi connection, but I
don't see how this is so. I don't think that AT&T gives you the option of
not paying for a data service with the iPhone. You must pay for the $30
data.

For $100, you can get unlimited iPhone data and voice calls. Then, you can
talk all you want. No need for Skype. Your battery will also last longer.
That isn't capable of cheap international calls, but, like I said above, if
you must use the laptop to gain access to Skype for the iPhone, you might as
well be running Skype on the laptop.

I suppose that you're using the iPhone as a wireless modem by using the
tethering profiles for download on that Austrian web site that have been
passed around. Of course, Apple helpfully blocked that out for AT&T in the
latest OS update.

Bryan

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reversing My Thinking Never Felt So Good On The iPhone 3GS

Hello My Fellow iPhone and iPod Touchers,

As some of you may know, later today, Wednesday, I will be trekking down to
San Diego to attend the CSUN convention.  

As you may guess, I would never go anywhere without a reliable means of
connecting to the Internet on one of my portable computers.  

However, since my assimilation into the Apple Orchard, it is not enough to
merely have broadband access on my computer but I now insist on having it
(as WiFi) on my trusty iPhone 3GS for many reasons not the least of which
being that I now, almost exclusively, use it for Skype on a daily basis.  

Truthfully, after having use the app on my iPhone 3GS, the thought of being
tethered to my computer albeit either a notebook or a Netbook in order to
use Skype comfortably, is almost laughable.

But Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Currently, one cannot use Skype, on the iPhone that is, via Edge or 3G; that
is to say, it can only be used via WiFi.  What to do?  

I'm sitting here typing this and laughing out loud at the thought, that,
since the iPhone 3GS' release last July, I haven't seen any articles or
received any request for assistance on the dilemma I found myself in as I
prepared to go where many have gone before, until just a few days ago.
(Smile)  

What I mean to say is that as of the date of its release, virtually everyone
wanted a way to tether their computer to the iPhone, using it like a high
speed broadband MODEM, an almost effortless feat to achieve on my beloved
Samsung Epix Windows Mobile phone.  (Big, big smile)  (That was for all you
Apple Koolade drinkers!!!)  

Not to brag, but like many, without having to jail break the device, I was
able to turn my iPhone 3GS into a broadband MODEM within mere days of its
purchase.  You see, the trick was... But I digress.  Sorry.  

Getting Back To The Point:  

Unlike previous trips, this time I wish to continue to use my mobile device
(the iPhone) in the same way I use it here at home on my wireless network.
Get it?  You see, instead of wanting the iPhone to act as an Internet
conduit for my computer, I want the computer to act as a WiFi hotspot
(conduit) for my iPhone.  This concept is referred to as "Reverse
Tethering".  

My Solution?  

In addition to being an A T & T Wireless customer, I am also a Verizon
Wireless customer and as such, I have a Verizon Wireless Air Card.  It is
generally accepted that the Verizon wireless Air Cards (via EVDO) provide
noticeably faster data access than does A T & T Wireless.  To be honest,
this is the primary reason I continue to subscribe to Verizon Wireless.  

Although I am blessed to have several portable computers from which to
choose, the only two I seriously considered taking with me were my MacBook
Pro 13-inch or my Acer (Aspire One), 7-inch Windows 7 Ultimate Netbook.  Of
course, my Verizon Wireless Air Card works beautifully on them both.  As a
side note, "yes" the Air Card works on my MacBook either in Snow Leopard, in
a Windows 7 Virtual machine, or in Windows 7 via BootCamp.  

Because of the much more convenient size of the Acer and its substantially
lesser value, I chose it over the MacBook Pro.

Oh!  I almost forgot.  The solution to reverse tethering the iPhone to any
wireless capable computer, including Desktop models, is to setup an ad-hoc
wireless network.  

Beware!  Now that reverse tethering is beginning to become more popular,
especially since the announcement of the iPad, do not be tricked into
purchasing any software that will configure this setup for you; because,
setting up such a configuration, on either the Mac or Windows 7, takes only
a few steps to accomplish and doesn't require any additional software.

Yep!  "Reversing my thinking never felt so good, on the iPhone 3GS."

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