I agree. If you also spend the time learning how to take advantage of it, it actually can be very helpful. You can map frequently used commands to it in specific apps and take advantage of double tapping on the command to activate it. I don’t understand why people are freaking out over the feature. It doesn’t take much effort to figure out how to use it and customize it. Google is your friend when it comes to documentation. It’s how I learned to utilize it effectively.
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Feb 12, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: > > I've gotten used to the Touch Bar on my MacBook Pro. I think it's mostly a > useless thing, but it doesn't cause me any grief. I've gotten used to dealing > with it, and don't really think about it anymore. The advantages of having a > higher in 13 inch MacBook Pro over the MacBook air make it a non-issue. > > - Brad - > > On Feb 12, 2021, at 08:36, Merv Keck <blind5spar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Unless I am mistaken, there are two different subjects being discussed on > the same thread. The Touch Bar which is on my MacBook Pro and the Touch Pad > which is also on my MacBook Pro but down in front of the keyboard. I have not > had the opportunity yet to become familiar with the trackpad or touch pad and > the rotor commands. I am still becoming familiar with my transition from Jaws > 2021 to voiceover and big sur. > I do use the Touch bar, however, and I for the most part have little > difficulty understanding why people take such issue with this feature of > their Mac. I do occasionally bump it when using the number keys. But that is > because I am moving from a Corsair mechanical keyboard with a numeric keypad > and large spread out keys. And I still am adjusting to the smaller 13 inch > MacBook with no numeric keypad and keys that are closer together. > I like the functionality of the touch bar. And I take advantage of it. With > the FN key I can easily switch between the Function keys and other specific > attributes at will. > For anyone who has Apple News Plus there is an interesting article in the > March 2021 issue of Mac Format on the relevance of the Touch Bar. > Merv > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On > Behalf Of Brad Snyder > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 9:24 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: this freaking touchbar is the worse gimmick I have come across > > All this does is turn off the trackpad commander. Trackpad is still active. > > - Brad - > > On Feb 12, 2021, at 02:38, Nebojsa Tasic <nele.ta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Press and hold VO and rotate two fingers to the left. > > > On 12.2.2021. 08:52, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> I have a touchpad on my Macbook Air, and I hate it. It causes me to >> hold my hands in an awkward elevated position when typing just to make >> sure I don't brush across it. >> >> On Windows 10 the touchpad can be turned off, but not on Mac. Very, >> very annoying. >> >> Best, >> >> Janina >> >> Brandon Olivares writes: >>> Honestly I enjoy the TouchBar. I don’t use it a lot but I do find it >>> helpful occasionally. >>> >>> Just a tip, if it stops responding, restarting VoiceOver can sometimes >>> help, or switching out of and back into the application you’re in. >>> >>> Also, I thought I heard Touch Bar is being discontinued, so you may not >>> have to deal with it for long. >>> >>> Brandon >>> >>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven” – Satan, from >>> Milton’s Paradise Lost >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> After a few months of my macbook 16 inch in heavy rotation, I have to be >>>> frank with the touch bar. It's an utterly useless, cluttery, annoying >>>> piece of tech which has no place where it sits. Everything else is world >>>> class, as expected from Apple. I just don't know why they tried squeezing >>>> this useless touchscreen, with my 2 cents on why below: >>>> >>>> 1-It's not reactive at all. Sometimes, it does not react or speak anything >>>> nno matter what I do. To solve this, sometimes I just keep moving my >>>> finger across left to right until hopefully something occurs. By that >>>> time, it really doesn't matter whether a touchbar is there or not. >>>> 2-It always gets in the way when I type. Keeps announcing f12 as my finger >>>> barely even brushes (or does my finger brush that area?). Just like cabs, >>>> the touch screen is never there when needed, always there when not. >>>> 3-The haptic part, obviously, is pretty much a foregone design flaw for >>>> blind users like myself. >>>> >>>> The reason I did not upgrade from an older macbook was because of the >>>> keyboards they had for a while, and the touchbar. Once my macbook was >>>> pretty much beyond retirement, my only choice was to have the greatest of >>>> the portable. I feel a bit cheated here, particularly knowing that the >>>> intel chip inside might actually not have the capacity to wake the >>>> touchbar up in a reactive way. >>>> >>>> That's it, now I'm happy to get back to work. >>>> >>>> Yuma >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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