Hi Sarah,

First, which browser are you using to read this thread at the linked Mail Archive site? There are different access key combinations for FireFox, Internet Explorer and Safari. For IE I think you use Alt-N to read down the thread. For Safari on a Mac with VoiceOver turned on, Control-N automatically takes you to the next post in a thread, and Command-N opens a new Window (unless there have been horrid changes that I don't know about). For Safari on a Mac without VoiceOver turned on, Control-Option-N will take you to the next post in a thread at the Mail Archive site. Control-P (or Alt-P, etc. depending on the browser) takes you to the previous post in the thread. I totally agree that having to click on the right arrow would be a pain, and the reason I use the Mail Archive is because the access keys and the search function makes it simple for me to find and read through content. It also supports access keys for other browsers and platforms.

In answer to your other questions, you can save the plist files anywhere you want on your home directory and then just copy them over to the your Library/Preferences folder if something goes wrong. There are usually only a few that would be a pain to set up again. If I don't have a recent copy I'll simply go into a cloned backup of my drive (which I take periodically) and copy them from the Library/ Preferences folder of my directory.

Here's the direct link to the post that I made to Daniel's thread describing how to navigate to the Library Preferences folder and decide which files to copy and save:

http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg16511.html

I'm not sure about the other messages, but it sounds as though your verbosity settings should be changed.

HTH

Cheers,

Esther



Sarah Alawami wrote:

Ok reading this thread is almost impossible I have to keep clicking on the right arrow to keep reading. is there an easier way to read this?

Thanks and how do I get it to stop saying where I am and what I'm entering and leaving. lol.
On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Sarah,

This sounds like the same problem that Daniel reported last month, and that Carlene may have seen a bit earlier. Do you have a copy of you old VoiceOver preference files? We're not sure why this is happening in these instances, but either as a source or result of the problem you .plist files are getting overwritten or the system thinks they are corrupted and is generating new ones. (Corrupted preference files are the second most common general problem, but way down in frequency after having to repair permissions with Disk Utility). I generally save copies of the most frequently used plist files somewhere easily accessed on my home directory. The ones you are likely to want for VoiceOver are:

com.apple.universalaccess.plist
com.apple.VoiceOver.plist
com.apple.VoiceOver.pronunciations.plist
Here's the start of Daniel's thread on VoiceOver resetting itself:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg16492.html
Use Control-N to read down through the thread. You can also check my post to Carlene about how to navigate to the Preferences folder. That post lists even more VoiceOver and speech-related plist files:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg13973.html
If you have any of the old plist files around from a backup, just copy them into the Library/Preferences folder under your home directory and they should be used instead.
HTH
Cheers,
Esther


Sarah Alawami wrote:

sorry to the cross posting.

Hello to all. Voice over reset itself yesterday and i can't figure out how. I am still trying get it not to say now in window or leaving tool bar or table or what ever and application when I focus something. I'v checked the settings in the vo control panel but I can't find anything that would change this.

any help would be good as I'm getting frustrated, fast.

Take care.


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