I appreciate all this feedback and guidance. That article was helpful. 

If it is the laptop route I go, the higher end MacBook Air seems to fit my 
needs best. 

My mid 2011 does work for the most part, but it is showing it's age. Both in OS 
not able to keep up with apps, and I have had start up issues after updates.  

Thanks again, 
Traci    

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> On May 19, 2020, at 7:39 AM, dan d. <dandun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> If what you have is doing what you need, updates are superfluous.
> 
> Beyond appple marketing stratigy hype, I never understood the obsession with 
> updates unless they had features of value for my needs.
> 
> Updates caan present undesired items, such as having to add shift to many 
> combination keyboard commands in vo.
>> On Mon, 18 May 2020, Traci Duncan wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Ok, I just went back to the apple store and reread the costs and options. As 
>> cool as the touch bar sounds, I???m not sure it???s worth the higher price. 
>> If I am understanding correctly, I can max out the processor and memory of 
>> the Air for $1350 in the education store. The air has the 10th gen 
>> processor, vs the 8th gen in the Pro. Any thoughts on that? I???m not sure 
>> how different the generations are.
>> 
>> I also don???t really know if I need to max speed out. I did max out this 
>> current mid 2011 air and it has lasted me this long. It is just too old to 
>> update to latest OS.
>> 
>> Thanks for the input,
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Bradford Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree with John.
>>> I have a 2019 MacBook Pro 13 and I continue to learn more about the 
>>> TouchBar the longer I have this machine.
>>> I really think it is a personal choice.  Are you interested in learning to 
>>> use the TouchBar or do you just want to stick with the familiar row of 
>>> f-keys.
>>> Aside from the TouchBar, you need to decide which machine suits your needs. 
>>>  Do you need the more powerful MacBook Pro, or will the new MacBook Air do 
>>> the job for you.
>>> Also, there are 2 versions of the TouchBar MacBook Pro to choose from.  
>>> Personally, I don???t think the entry-level MacBook Pro with 2 USB-
>>> c ports is worth considering versus the new MacBook Air, but that is just 
>>> my opinion.  When it comes to performance versus price, I don???t feel the 
>>> entry-level MacBook Pro has a significant advantage over the MacBook Air, 
>>> but again that is just my opinion.  Everyone must make the choice that is 
>>> best for themselves.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 12:39, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, the Touch Bar is a very powerful and useful tool, and many people 
>>> use it effectively on the Mac Book Pro. From a blind perspective, you have 
>>> to get used to it and take your time learning it. You can even customize 
>>> the Touch Bar for specific apps to do quick actions for that app. I have 
>>> slowly come along and have taken my time learning to use it. I finally am 
>>> at the point in which I am customizing its options and making effective use 
>>> of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
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>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 1:34 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Answers inline because there???s a lot of questions, sorry.
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all, I have a variety of Mac questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> MacBook Pro
>>>>> As voiceover users, what are your thoughts on the MacPro touch bar? Is 
>>>>> that a selling point over the MacBook Air?
>>>> Its not. The Touch Bar, for me, sucks, makes things slower, and should be 
>>>> on Air MacBooks for consumers who like shiny new stuff, instead of pros 
>>>> for people who try their best to get work done. Yes, I really don???t like 
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mac mini
>>>>> Does anyone have experience choosing and connecting a monitor to the Mac 
>>>>> mini? Picking out a good one for sighted household members? ;) I was 
>>>>> under some assumption that a TV would work fine, but from my reading, 
>>>>> that doesn't sound the case. It didn't occur to me, that monitors are 
>>>>> built for sitting close, TV's are built for sitting away. Insert 
>>>>> face-palm here.
>>>> I just used a TV for my old Mac mini. It was a small TV, like a 21 inch or 
>>>> so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mac bluetooth accessories
>>>>> I've recently learned about bluetooth numb pads. I remember way back in 
>>>>> the day, I loved using an external numb pad with my Window's machine. 
>>>>> Anyone with experience using one of these with Mac? I know the numb pad 
>>>>> will extend voiceover commands, but I don't know if a bluetooth one will 
>>>>> do this.
>>>> It should.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the help. I am ready to upgrade my MacBook Air mid 2011, but 
>>>>> clearly having a hard time deciding.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Traci
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