Here in NZ so far we’re pretty good, From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, 13 March 2020 10:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Incoming email sounds on the Mac
Hello Tim. I know how frustrating it is, I was meant to be getting a dog but the dog did not work out for me and so I’m waiting for another dog. I have been waiting for a dog for almost 3 years. Hopefully something will come along for me soon. Just hoping that everybody is well on this list, and no virus. Kawal. On 12 Mar 2020, at 9:10 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi Petrus, I was supposed to leave this Sunday morning, but the COVID-19 has put a wrench in the plan. I'll have to wait and see when things cool off a bit to arrange a new time slot. Happy gardening! We're all covered with this rather cold white stuff right now, so gardening is still a couple months away in my world. Thanks for asking. Have a good one.. Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:04, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Tim, You didn’t make my life difficult. I’ll leave that honour for Apple. You were just trying to help. I’m off to do some gardening now. Have you got your new dog yet? On 13/03/2020, at 09:55, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi, Sorry for making your life difficult. The thing is that different apps use different formats by default. Messages and FaceTime on your Mac usually use m4r alert-tones or ring-tones whereas Mail uses and alert sound. hence the different formats. Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 12, 2020, at 14:44, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote: Never mind, it all sounds too hard. I’ll just have to stick with the sounds that come on the Mac. Hopefully one Apple will let us download extra sounds from the iTunes Store to the Mac. On 13/03/2020, at 09:40, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi Petrus, Nope. The ring-tones are m4r format whereas the alert-tones on the Mac are AIFF. If these are tones that you've purchased, then it will be a little more challenging to make into an AiFF audio file, but not normally impossible. Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 12, 2020, at 14:31, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote: Nope, I’m still confused. I have these sounds that I purchased through the iTunes Store on my iPhone, how do I get them from my iPhone to the Mac in order to paste them in the first place. I’m assuming the Mac uses the same file type for the alert tones than the iPhone uses? On 13/03/2020, at 09:19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi Petrus, Actually, I lied. What a scum-bag, eh? I may have read too much into your question. The problems I was referring to have to do with ring-tones in the Messages app and Phone app on your iPhone/iPad. As you know, you can customize these in iPhone/iPad, and my woes had to do with attempts to customize the same sounds in Messages and FaceTime on the Mac. So, now what you've really asked is actually fairly quick and painless as long as your custom alert sound is an AIFF file. What you do is paste the AIFF audio file into the Sounds folder in ~/Library. That is, go to your Desktop, then to the menubar, over to the Go menu, make sure to keep the VO keys pressed and go down to the Library item and activate with return or VO-space. Now, your personal Library folder is open and you can locate the Sounds folder, open it and paste in the AIFF sound file. Once it is in this location, go back into the Mail app, to Preferences, and in the General pane you'll have that new sound as an option. If you don't have an app to convert your sound file into an AIFF, send it to me off-list and I'll convert it for you. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 12, 2020, at 13:09, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Tim, That answers my question. I still can’t understand why apple makes it so difficult. Like I said most of the default sounds for the messages app are available on both the Mac and the iPhone, but the alert sounds for the Mail app are very limited. I haven’t counted them but I’m guessing it is only around 9 options, none of which are very exciting. Surely it can’t be that difficult to let us download sounds that we have purchased from their own iTunes Store to our Mac’s? I might email then and ask but I’m guessing that won’t help as they don’t like getting suggestions. And I’m not sure what email address to use. On 13/03/2020, at 03:33, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi, A year or so ago, I did some research on this. Supposedly it works. So, I migrated my tones I use on my iPad and iPhone over to the Mac and placed them into the specific location where the Mac grabs these sound files from when making Mail or Message alerts. You'll note that I'm being fairly vague in my description and this is purposeful. The specific location is deeper in the System and is not usually accessed by the day-to-day user. I can't remember for sure, but I may have even needed to disable System Integrity Protection to do it. After all this, it still didn't work. The tone choices did appear in Messages for me, but when I chose them, they did not play. I either got no sound at all, or it switched back to the default alert sound. Again, I'm not positive. I gave up for now. So, essentially, it's supposed to be possible, not for the faint of heart, and not necessarily a successful venture. Maybe I'll take a look at it again in Catalina in a bit, but wouldn't hold much stock in success. Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 11, 2020, at 22:36, Bradford Snyder <wb...@swbell.net<mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: So, can you explain how to do this. - Brad - On Mar 11, 2020, at 19:50, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: Well, one can certainly add sounds to Mail rules. I don't know if they need to be a specific type or not. Traditionally, Mac system sounds were AIFF files, but I expect that the there is a bit more flexibility these days. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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