Actually, the current situation under 13.3.1 is better than with the previous 
iteration.  While iOS 13.3 fixed some things, it made some things like Safari 
worse, and toggling Smart Invert did nothing to help.  At least with 13.3.1, 
toggling Smart Invert has returned as an option in most cases.

Really wish I had stuck with iOS 12.4.1 on my iPhone X.  At least I resisted 
the temptation, and did not update my iPad Pro, and it remains on 12.4.1.

- Brad -


On Jan 29, 2020, at 10:45, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the clarification Brad.  Yeah, I much preferred dark screen with 
lighter letters way back in the early 90's when I could actually see enough to 
read a screen.  Sounds frustrating indeed.  I checked and there doesn't even 
seem to be an option under the gesture commands to specify toggling Dark Mode 
on and off.  That would save the side button some presses.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 29, 2020, at 08:49, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net 
<mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I have tried turning Dark Mode off, and just using Smart Invert like in iOS 12, 
but once I turn on Smart Invert, Dark Mode is turned on and stays on.  I have 
tried going with only Dark Mode, but there are too many issues for this to be 
workable for me.  For now, I will just keep toggling the side button, and hope 
I don’t wear the thing out.  LOL!

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On Jan 29, 2020, at 09:41, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
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wrote:

You have put the issues so well, Brad! I have reported this to Apple yet 
again... Pages documents need Classic invert colours, many emails need Dark 
mode to get the body of the email to appear as white text on dark background. 
And with Smart invert on, try going into the App Store, find a new app and try 
to share it by email: the email itself is glaring white and the keyboard is 
impossible to read!
Harry
Harry

> On 29 Jan 2020, at 15:28, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net 
> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> The issues continue with the latest 13.3.1 update.  Somethings are better 
> than with the last update, like I am able to view Safari web pages with light 
> text on a black background again, but the experience is inconsistent across 
> different non-stock apps.  The good news is that at least toggling Smart 
> Invert on/off seems to provide a fix that was not present in the last 13.3 
> update.
> 
> From what I understand, the issue has to do with the underlying code base, 
> and the implementation of Dark Mode.  I really wish that Apple had just left 
> things how it was in iOS 12, and rebranded Smart Invert as Dark Mode, and 
> called it done.
> 
> What they have done is created a real mess for those of us who have vision 
> issues that make using a dark background essential.  True, I am able to 
> function using VoiceOver, but I suffer from having my one functional eye 
> blasted with a bright white screen.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2020, at 01:04, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Dark mode and smart invert are still a mess and I despair of them ever 
> sorting it out! I’m still having to chop and change all the time between dark 
> mode, smart and classic invert. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 28 Jan 2020, at 22:49, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net 
>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, lets hope Apple addressed the ongoing issues with Dark Mode and Smart 
>> Invert.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2020, at 16:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not sure of the status of any VO enhancements or bugs or if they have been 
>> addressed in these updates.  Apple released iOS and iPadOS 13.3.1 today for 
>> iPhone/iPod/iPad/HomePod and I expect TVOS as well, although I didn't check. 
>>  WatchOS 6.1.2 was also released.  There was also an update to 10.15.3 
>> Catalina for MacOS.  I've updated my Mac, iPad, iPhone and watch with no 
>> noticeable flaws..  Supposedly some security enhancements, but you'll not 
>> usually notice any performance or feature changes when security is the focus.
>> 
>> Update away if you wish :).
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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