I would just add that there is new hardware. Both the phones have a faster processor, which is something I always like to see. I think they may also have a new haptic engine, which I'm curious about.
I think part of what draws responses like Kawal's is that the iPhone isn't new anymore. I was actually thinking about this last night. In the "old days' (2009 2010) we were so excited to see every new release, because everything was new, both in terms of the phone itself and the touch interface, and the fact that Apple had made it accessible. Every Apple event felt like Christmas. In those days, this list would hav been abuzz within moments of the conclusion of the event. I think accessible Apple products have become the "new normal." In a way that is a really good thing, but it means that events like yesterday will seem less dramatic. I can say that I've been running the beta on both my iPad and iPhone, and I really like it. Apple has introduced some very nice new features, including--as someone else already mentioned--voice control, which will be great for folks who have limited mobility in their hands. For my part, I do plan to upgrade to the 11. I'm looking forward to the faster processor, and the faster face recognition. I won't upgrade to the new watch, there wasn't anything in that that I feel like I need to have. But I have a Series 4, and as someone else pointed out earlier, a $400 watch is something that ought to last for more than one year, so I'm just fine sitting Series 5 out. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 11, 2019, at 5:38 AM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote: > > I will. I’m pretty sure Apple won’t disappoint us. Actually they proved > themselves as a very reliable partner in terms of accessibility. More then > any other company I can remember in the world of Windows and Android. > > > >> Am 11.09.2019 um 12:16 schrieb 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: >> >> Please tell us about the voice over on the new watch when you get it with >> the display on. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 11 Sep 2019, at 11:13 am, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote: >>> >>> The hardware itself was just terrific for sighted users. Some told me how >>> stunning the pictures looked like. >>> On 19th September you’ll see what Apple is going to release for us in iOS >>> 13. They included a lot of really great new functions in VO settings. >>> And in terms of the new Apple Watch: we’ll see. 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