No.  It makes no difference if you press command or shift first
On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

> William,
> 
> You're right.  When I looked back at my notes, it is written "command
> shift T."
> Does it make a difference on the key sequence?  i.e. shift  command t
> vs. command shift t
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of william
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Short cut key for putting item on the Dock
> 
> 
> Hello Linda,
> I think it's I think command+shift+t in snow leopard
> best regards,
> William 
> 
> 
> Op 11-feb-2010, om 23:17 heeft Linda Adams het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> It doesn't involve VO but the following will do it.
>> Shift command T adds selection to the Dock
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:40 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: shortcut keys was Re: Snow Leopard Mail: Message headers
>> 
>> 
>> Ok, how do you get something on to the doc, using vo?
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Roberts
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2010 6:30 a.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: shortcut keys was Re: Snow Leopard Mail: Message headers
>> 
>> Control-F2 brings up the Menu Bar, and Control-F3 will take you to the
>> Doc.
>> 
>> Matt Roberts
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone using VoiceOver
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:25 AM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, I knew about the ones from the menus.  I was thinking more 
>>> along the lines of commands that weren't obvious.  Like, I know
>>> there is a mac OS10 command to get to the menu bar.  VO M replaces  
>>> this redundantly.  Same for the dock.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> erik burggraaf
>>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2010-02-10, at 9:53 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Erik,
>>>> 
>>>> You can find most of the shortcuts in menus. The Go menu in the 
>>>> Finder has lots of useful ones. I don't know of any handy document
>>>> with a comprehensive list of them.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ann,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you have an appendix or quick reference for MAc OS shortcut 
>>>>> keys?  I know that VO replaces many of them redundantly and I
>>>>> would be very interested to see what the system itself offers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> erik burggraaf
>>>>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>>>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010-02-10, at 9:18 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Carolyn,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are no dumb questions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The physical mouse depends on what kind of computer you're using. 
>>>>>> On a recent MacBook or MacBook Pro, it's the trackpad itself, on
>>>>>> an older MacBook, MacBook Pro, PowerBook or iBook, it's the  
>>>>>> trackpad button, and on a desktop computer, of course, it's the  
>>>>>> mouse.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have MouseKeys turned on, it's usually possible to click 
>>>>>> the mouse by using FN and the letter "i". You can also use the
>>>>>> number 5 on the Numpad with Numpad Commander turned on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Control-click is the same thing as VO-Shift-m, but sometimes, the 
>>>>>> VO command doesn't work whereas the standard keyboard shortcut
>>>>>> does.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I usually prefer to use standard keyboard shortcuts where they 
>>>>>> exist, probably because I was using Macs long before VoiceOver
>>>>>> appeared.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anne:
>>>>>>> I'm following this trying to learn.  I feel pretty dumb asking 
>>>>>>> this, but where is the mouse you click?  Is it on the tracking
>>>>>>> pad?  Sorry for how ridiculous this sounds.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Anne Robertson
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:30 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard Mail: Message headers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Everett,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There seems to be a focus issue in Snow Leopard, but you can get 
>>>>>>> round it by navigating  to the sender's name then bringing the
>>>>>>> mouse cursor to the VO cursor with VO-Command-F5. Then Control- 
>>>>>>> click to get the contextual menu and it works as before.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:59 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good evening,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Leopard I could interact with the message headers in Mail and
> 
>>>>>>>> bring up a context menu on the Senders address.  That
>>>>>>>> functionality seems to be missing in Snow Leopard.  Am I crazy,
> 
>>>>>>>> has this moved somewhere?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Everett
>>>>>>>> 
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