Well, thought it was resolved but it showed up again. My co-worker did something counterintuitive that might have resolved things. Apparently old bluetooth configurations can get stuck in the phone when you unpair the device. He turned off onscreen keyboard in the Braille settings, and restarted the phone. I’ll try things out a bit, and if it works I’ll get a full write up of the procedure. I would not have even expected him to know how to get to Braille settings on an iPhone, though he was the person in our office who went to Hawaii board of education and helped get things set up for their Blind students. Jonathan Cohn > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > If you mean braille screen input, who knows. I do not have that in mu > rotor. This sure is perplexing. A total reset would indeed be the last resort > but it might end up being the best solution. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 12/17/2018 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >> Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. >> I removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille from the rotor, >> turned off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up. >> I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can >> simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the >> rotor in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into >> reversing actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I >> talked with said he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard >> would disappear when BlueTooth headphones are connected. >>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these? >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>> Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle >>>> now appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is >>>> connected to the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as >>>> soon as I get out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable >>>> the Braille display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears. >>>> I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my >>>> credit cards back into Apple Pay. >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Jonathan Cohn >>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jonathan, >>>>> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external >>>>> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned >>>>> off Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings >>>>> keyboard and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, >>>>> two of which were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, >>>>> rebooted the phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed >>>>> US English twice. And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that >>>>> getting rid of one of them should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it >>>>> did. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen >>>>>> keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the >>>>>> Braille display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, >>>>>> reset the system with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and >>>>>> probably 5 other similar attempts. I have not yet looked at support >>>>>> pages on the web, but then again I am just getting onto a computer now >>>>>> since my post last night. Oh, and I apologize for the typo’s in that >>>>>> post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on screen keyboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else >>>>>> has ideas please keep them coming. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow <kzodrow...@att.net >>>>>>> <mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over >>>>>>> the weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or >>>>>>> type on my phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone >>>>>>> thought I was still connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even >>>>>>> though the display was already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off >>>>>>> and then back on and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, try >>>>>>> turning Bluetooth off and do a soft reset on your phone. When I had >>>>>>> this problem, I eventually went to the Apple Store on Monday and they >>>>>>> were able to reset my phone. None of my apps or data was erased and I >>>>>>> did a back up beforehand just in case that might happen. The keyboard >>>>>>> magically reappeared again after they turned off Bluetooth and reset it. >>>>>>> Hope that helps. >>>>>>> Katie >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my >>>>>>>> keyboard stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it >>>>>>>> to reappear. Guidance gratefully sought! 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