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Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 20, 2018, at 13:34, John JD Denning <jdenning1...@gmail.com> wrote: As an IT professional, and someone with an IT security background, I’ll mention one point that for some reason seems to skate people. Your data, and your privacy and secured with Apple devices. It is not with either Amazon or Google. They have a history of flagrant disregard for their customers privacy. Well actually there customers are the people they sell the data to not the people purchase their echoes or smart speakers. So for that reason alone I am drawn towards Apple products. Apple sees me the end-user as a customer they don’t see me as the product. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2018, at 13:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > I guess that's a matter of preference. You can't listen to Apple Music on > your Echo. Sure, you need AirPlay to listen to Apple Music on the HomePod, > but you can. Each smart speaker has its limitations due to proprietary > considerations. If Amazon Music is your preference, then go with the Echo or > Dot, if Apple Music is your preference then go with the HomePod and if Google > is your preference,, then go with the Google Home. No need to qualify the > speakers on those terms. If you wish to qualify or compare on sound quality, > then there's stuff out there to make a point. Other than that, I just see it > as an ecosystem preference. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Nov 20, 2018, at 11:21, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Yeah but what's the point of a smart speaker if you have to listen to > everything else other than Apple Music via airplay? Isn't the point of having > a smart speaker to listen to anything on it without having to do an extra > step to listen to the thing you want? This is why I chose the Echo. I can > listen to Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Tunein and SiriusXM all without > having to use airplay or Bluetooth. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > >> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:53 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> You know, and this is just my opinion, I think people make too much of this. >> You can play anything you want on the HomePod, you just go about it >> differently. I often play Spotify and Tune-in radio on my HomePod, you just >> have to do it by using airplay on your phone. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> >>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:39 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, if you really don't care that the HomePod is a one trick pony and >>> that it can only play Apple Music, then go ahead and buy it. I just >>> purchased an Echo Dot 3 and the sound quality is awesome. Plus I heard that >>> if you buy two of them, you can get the same stereo quality sound you'd get >>> with the HomePod. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Shawn, >>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> >>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a HomePod in my home office, and really like it. Good luck with >>>> your decision! >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Generally speaking, I am a big fan of try before you buy when it comes to >>>>> speakers. However, the days of really nice set ups where you could do >>>>> that in the store dedicated to stereo listening are gone, at least here >>>>> in this town. You can go to the store and listen to speakers amidst all >>>>> the din. But it doesn’t tell you very much. And I am really leaning >>>>> towards the HomePods. If it turns out I don’t like them, I can always >>>>> take them back to Best Buy. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 5:37 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mary, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you consider this option, you may wish to know that Sonnos tracks a >>>>>> lot of personal information, including your IP address. I've had Sonos >>>>>> speakers for years and really liked them, but we have stopped using them >>>>>> since they implemented this practice. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2018, at 11:37 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you thought about trying the sonos products which now use alexa >>>>>>> for voice recognition >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I find the sonos devices excellent for both useage and sound quality. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mind you we don’t have the home pods here in NZ so I can’t compare. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2018 1:58 AM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Homepod, was Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern >>>>>>> Apple product >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>>>> I have a Homepod. I will probably get another. But my impressions of it >>>>>>> are basically the same as all the reviews you'll find if you Google it: >>>>>>> Homepod hardware is absolutely second to none. Sound is fantastic, the >>>>>>> microphones can hear me speaking at normal volume from miles away. Siri >>>>>>> accuracy is near 100% in terms of it correctly hearing what I want it >>>>>>> to do. >>>>>>> Homepod software is steadily improving, but still not as capable as, >>>>>>> say, Google Assistant. There are still many times where Siri knows what >>>>>>> I want her to do, but can't actually do it. Saying that, Google doesn't >>>>>>> hear me as well as Siri does, so in terms of time wasted, I'd say >>>>>>> they're almost equal! >>>>>>> Phone calls, messages, calendars, reminders work well now, but only for >>>>>>> one user, which will be a significant shortcoming in a family >>>>>>> environment I'm sure. >>>>>>> Hope this helps a little bit, >>>>>>> Matthew >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>> Sent: 18 November 2018 01:26 >>>>>>> To: viph...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com>; >>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>; mac4thebl...@freelists.org >>>>>>> <mailto:mac4thebl...@freelists.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the >>>>>>> HomePod speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a >>>>>>> pair of those in an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a >>>>>>> nice stereo set up, but it’s rather old, although the speakers are >>>>>>> still wonderful. I’m just curious what peoples impressions are of the >>>>>>> HomePod, especially as a stereo pair in a moderate sized living room, >>>>>>> as well as how it works otherwise. Siri, phone calls, etc. >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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