So it is Berkley Unix that underlies MacOS? I suppose I should have gone into
Terminal and checked the Unix version.
I recall that many folks at Bell Labs felt that Berkley’s enhanced system call
suite forUnix was unnecessary “overkill,” but I’m sure there is plenty of
justification from the University’s point-of-view!
****************
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- US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
At least in HFS / HFS+ an alias is a bit more powerful than a symbolic link. An
alias will still point to a file or folder if the item is moved from its
original location. If you create a symbolic link then move the item the
symbolic link is pointing to then it ends up pointing to nothing.
> yes you are correct about the original behavior of rm vs rmdir. BSD 4.4 I
> believe added the rm -r option to recursively remove a directory and all its
> contents. Generally the -f option was added to force as much as possible the
> ignoring of errors during the rm -r operation.
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:32 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Couple of thoughts here.And
>
> Isn’t an “alias” in fact a symbolic link to a “real component?”
>
> The other thought is, does the “rm” Terminal command delete a folder? I
> recall using the “rmdir” command to delete folders/directories in AT&T UNIX.
>
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>
> On Nov 17, 2018, at 1:00 PM, John <jpanar...@gmail.com
> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I wonder why it can’t be deleted. If you have any experience working in
> Terminal, try the, “rm” command to see if you can delete it that way.
>
>
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 1:56 PM, jean parker <radiofore...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting, I have now tried it as you have explained it and everything
>> works as expected. I think something must have happened with the first
>> folder I tried to create because now I can’t delete it from the desktop. I
>> was able to move it someplace else to get it out of the way but even then it
>> can’t be deleted.
>>
>> Thanks so much for all of your help.
>>
>>
>>> On 17 Nov 2018, at 11:49 am, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just did some experimenting here and everything is working as it should.
>>> I created an alias to my documents folder on my desktop, made some changes
>>> to that folder from the alias, closed the window, went to my documents
>>> folder via finder and the changes were reflected.
>>>
>>> I can only suggest to press command-i on the alias and be sure that it is
>>> showing the proper path to the Docments folder.
>>>
>>>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 1:41 PM, jean parker <radiofore...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Nov 2018, at 11:37 am, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are your documents being kept in iCloud?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 1:35 PM, jean parker <radiofore...@gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>> Yes, I did all of the steps but it only seems to work if I copy the
>>>>>> alius folder to the desktop and not move it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 Nov 2018, at 11:32 am, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK. I’m not sure what you mean so let me break down the steps to the
>>>>>>> process for you and hopefully clarify my meaning. Let’s assume you are
>>>>>>> trying to create an alias to your Documents folder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Navigate to your home folder and locate your Documents folder.
>>>>>>> 2. When on the Documents Folder, press Command-control-a in Mojave to
>>>>>>> create an Alias.
>>>>>>> 3. You should have the alias and should be able to edit the name if you
>>>>>>> choose. Just press enter if you want to maintain, Documents Alias, as
>>>>>>> its title.
>>>>>>> 4. Press command-c to copy the alias.
>>>>>>> 5. Press VO-shift-d to go to your desktop.
>>>>>>> 6. Press command-option-v to move the alias to the Desktop.
>>>>>>> You now have the alias on the desktop, and opening it will actually
>>>>>>> open your Documents Folder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 1:20 PM, jean parker <radiofore...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi John:
>>>>>>>> I created the alius folder by making the original folder in its
>>>>>>>> original location as an alius folder. Then I moved it to my desktop
>>>>>>>> and made a change in the alius folder. But it was still not reflected
>>>>>>>> in the original folder.
>>>>>>>> It seems that I am doing something incorrectly in the creation of the
>>>>>>>> alius folder. Any other ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 17 Nov 2018, at 11:11 am, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I am understanding you correctly, an Alias is just a shortcut or a
>>>>>>>>> pointer file to the original item. So, if you create an alias on your
>>>>>>>>> desktop to your Documents folder, when you open that alias, you are
>>>>>>>>> opening the actual folder. So, any changes that are made are actually
>>>>>>>>> made in that folder.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make sure you create the alias in the directory where the folder is
>>>>>>>>> contained first. Then, copy the alias and move it to the desktop.
>>>>>>>>> When you do a command-I on the alias, it should indicate that it is
>>>>>>>>> an Alias file and not the actual item itself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 1:07 PM, jean parker <radiofore...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>> I need some clarification about how alius folders work. I had been
>>>>>>>>>> under the imppression that if a change is made in an alius folder
>>>>>>>>>> that it would also be made in the actual folder. So, I put a folder
>>>>>>>>>> that I use often on my desktop thinking that keeping an alius
>>>>>>>>>> version of folders I use frequently would save me time. However, I
>>>>>>>>>> added something to the alius version of that folder but the change
>>>>>>>>>> has not been reflected in the actual folder located in my documents
>>>>>>>>>> folder structure.
>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain how this works?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Jean
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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