I will sure take a closer look at this next time the password
request comes up. Your explanation made it pretty clear what is
happening, thanks.
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On 10/13/2018 1:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi,
When you hear announcements like "Security Agent has no windows", or
similarly with some other agent, this is an invisible layer that sighted
users would never notice, but because we want VO to notice just about
everything, those agents often take over VO focus. Normally, cmd-tab, a
physical click of the mouse or trackpad button, or in some cases, the
virtual click with VO-shift-space will bring focus back to the Finder.
After focus is on the Finder, you should be able to use the
Application Chooser, or Window Chooser to locate the necessary entry
area. Note that the Security agent is a call to a process, thus the
entry area is not a window that belongs to the Security Agent, so doing
the Window Chooser while VO focus is within the security Agent will not
be successful.
Hope this makes sense.
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On Oct 13, 2018, at 14:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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Unless I am mistaken, I hear "security agent has no window". And
thus, I have never been able to find it with the chooser.
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On 10/13/2018 1:10 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I had tried that, unfortunately this one does not show as a system
dialog, at least it only happens on one of my macs and not all of them.
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Hi,
On my MBP with TouchBar, the Touch ID or password request does appear
normally without extra interventions. I recommend you use the method
suggested by Oriol, whereby you use the Application Chooser,
VO-f1-f1. An item named System Dialogs should be there, select it
then go right and down to the appropriate window. You should easily
be able to enter your password in this situation. There are a number
of situations where System dialogs are present, but not readily
noticeable to us, but sighted users see them plainly in the way of
whatever we are focused on as VO users.
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On Oct 13, 2018, at 11:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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That is why I bother with clean installs, to make sure issues do
not carry over. I also have a MBP.
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On 10/13/2018 10:15 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I noticed that as well, I did need to enter my mac password,
whenever there is a new major release of the operating system, I
always erase my drive and do a clean install to give everything a
fresh start.
On Oct 13, 2018, at 10:31 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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If you can see a little, increase the mouse pointer size.
High Sierra has the same issue and I was hopeful it would be gone
in Mojave.
As to Dropbox, if the app is already installed and you are
prompted to sign in, while VO will speak the fields as you
navigate, it will not echo what you are typing in. Enter your user
ID then move VO and back so it will read it to you. I have made
Dropbox very aware of this but they need to hear from others too..
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On 10/13/2018 6:58 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I did get it to work but it really is a pain, you have to use the
trackpad to get the mouse in t the window and then click it, I
will definitely be sending a report to Apple on this one, it will
be interesting to see if it happens with my mac minis as well.
On Oct 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net
<mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote:
I will try Ann's suggestion, just doing vo+shift+space does not
seem to work, I'm actually surprised this got through testing, I
would consider this to be a major bug or a show stopper, I may
consider going back to high sierra since I never had the problem
there.
On Oct 13, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net
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Interesting, never had the problem in Sierra, that makes sense
though, to do a mouse click on the window. I can see good enough
to know that there is a box on the screen, I just can't read it
or see good enough to move the mouse to it, that is a major bug,
I will try the mouse click idea.
On Oct 12, 2018, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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This has carried over from High Sierra. It is worse in Mojave.
Its hit and miss. When you hear the "security agent has no
window" press VO plus shift plus space.
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On 10/12/2018 9:03 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Hey everyone, ok, found an odd issue with Mojave, wonder if
anyone else has seen this, I'm not sure if it's voiceover
related or the operating system itself. When moving or copying
files to any place outside of your home folder, you are
normally prompted for your password. However, in Mojave,
voiceover says security agent has no windows, a finder window
appears saying that it's preparing to copy files but since
there is no way to enter the password, the only way out of
this window is to force the finder to relaunch. This is on my
new macbook air, have not tried it on my mac minis yet.
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