Hi,

Remember that the seven year life cycle is just for MacOS update compatibility. 
 That is, the computer may, and likely will, last longer.  I have numerous Mac 
Pros from 2009 still running flawlessly.  They're stuck at El Capitan, but they 
work great and there's no performance issues.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 10, 2018, at 21:23, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com> wrote:

It does. I just might go for that 2017 model. For the price, it sure looks like 
one gets a lot. I didn't see anything on the specs about how many and what 
kinds of ports are on it. Will have to look it over again more closely.

On 5/10/2018 11:08 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> Hi Steve. Every Mac has a seven year life cycle. Therefore, your 2012 Mac 
> will still be good until at least next year. With that being said, if you do 
> go the Mac Pro route, I'd suggest that you buy the newest one you can afford. 
> So if you bought, let's say a 2016 model, that machine would still be good 
> until around 2023. Hope that helps with your decision.
> 
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>> On May 10, 2018, at 9:59 PM, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com 
>> <mailto:numb...@noisynotes.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Great advice, yes, but would that not be about six times the price? I just 
>> saw this one from 2017 that looks frightfully good. 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-8-CORE-Mac-Pro-OSX-2017-2-8GHz-32GB-Ram-2TB-HD-1GB-HD6870-VIDEO-Warranty/173158663830?hash=item28510f8696:g:ldUAAOSwyXNaRSlf
>>  
>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-8-CORE-Mac-Pro-OSX-2017-2-8GHz-32GB-Ram-2TB-HD-1GB-HD6870-VIDEO-Warranty/173158663830?hash=item28510f8696:g:ldUAAOSwyXNaRSlf>
>>  Forget the software. The 2T SSD, eight cores and 32GB memory are worth the 
>> price all by themselves.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/10/2018 10:28 PM, Maria Reyes wrote:
>>> I would wait until the new Mac Pro comes out next year.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On May 10, 2018, at 9:50 PM, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com 
>>>> <mailto:numb...@noisynotes.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have a quad core i7 late 2012 Mac Mini with the stock 5400rpm 1TB drive 
>>>> and 8GB RAM. I use it exclusively for music reation and education (mainly 
>>>> my own) with Logic and Pro Tools. My sample libraries are stored on an 
>>>> external MyBook 3TB drive which is also shared with time Machine. 
>>>> Consequently, once per hour, there's a little gligtchiness sometimes if I 
>>>> happen to be playing something that draws heavily on sampled content when 
>>>> TM runs. Granted, it only lasts for a second or two because the machine 
>>>> does not require much in the way of backups, as very little on it changes.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So I'm starting to think it's time for an upgrade. But what to upgrade?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Clearly more memory would help, as well as replacing the mechanical drive 
>>>> with a solid-state drive. There's also the main hardware, which surely 
>>>> can't be upgradable to the next operating system forever. I ran into this 
>>>> with a 2009 iMac when Sierra was released. For disk replacement, Crucial 
>>>> has a 2TB drive for five hundred dollars--that's just twenty-five cents US 
>>>> per gig--a very nice price. I'm quite fond of Crucial solid-state disks, 
>>>> as I already own two other smaller units used in other machine. I figure 
>>>> if I changed out the 1TB rotating drive for a 2TB SSD and moved all my 
>>>> sample libraries to that drive, that would also eliminate the USB 3 
>>>> slow-down (if there really is one, which I'm not convinced there is), then 
>>>> that USB drive would be used exclusively for Time Machine backups.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Another option is to purchase an empty Mac Pro and put the Crucial 2TB 
>>>> drive and lots of memory into it, then set the rest of it up as above. But 
>>>> how long will a Mac Pro last before it, too, can no longer be upgraded? 
>>>> With the price of Apple hardware ever increasing, will I eventually get 
>>>> priced out of upgrading?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Everybody says it's bad practice to mix system and data files on a drive. 
>>>> But if it's a solid-state drive, how could this be bad?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If I obtain a Mac Pro, which model year has the highest expandability 
>>>> quotient? i.e., which one can I keep the longest and expand the most into 
>>>> the future before it won't be expandable/ upgradable any more, like my old 
>>>> 2009 iMac turned out to be when Sierra was released.
>>>> 
>>>> So, what would you do?
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