Yeah ET, On a notebook it's easy, Try doing one on an iMac with standard mac wired keyboard.
I get someone else to hit the power button. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 6:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Getting to the top of the messages table in the mail Hmmm. Have you ever done a PRAM reset? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/29/2017 10:54 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hmm. It's doable, but I see Mary's point, that is a lot of keys. Sometimes > I think that when VO commands are being decided, there's someone who must > think all blind people have ten extra fingers. > Cheers, > Donna >> On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> VO command shift. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 10/29/2017 10:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> So what is the new command for the language rotor? I, too, switch between >>> languages frequently. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is there a list somewhere of the things that have changed between Sierra >>>> and High Sierra? I'm talking video keyboard commands here, like the >>>> language one. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 10:40 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That was actually a nice change unless one is constantly changing voice >>>>> settings. The navigation rotor is quite useful. I know many people >>>>> freaked out over the change to the VO command used to invoke the speech >>>>> rotor. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the >>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn >>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/29/2017 10:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> I'm not sure what all commands have changed, except I'm sure about the >>>>>> language one, which is really kind of a nuisance. If you don't need >>>>>> multiple languages I guess it won't bother you. I'm not sure why they >>>>>> changed it. Obviously something took over what used to be the rotor >>>>>> thing to be able to switch easily among languages on the fly. >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 6:02 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glad it worked, Mary. Also glad it hasn't changed - it sounds like some >>>>>>> commands have changed in High Sierra. Guess I'll have to upgrade one >>>>>>> of these days. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Donna. That worked. It has not changed in High Sierra. 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