I would really just rather just keep it stupid simple and keep the fingerprint sensor. I am not against them adding face reg but I like the fingerprint myself. It all ready works with my bank app and all with out needing an update.
On 8/30/17, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > OK. Will find out all of this when we find out, which is when Apple decides > to release the phone. I highly doubt the face recognition is going to be > based on pictures, it will most likely be infrared which will be easier for > people who can’t see it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 30, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> What I'd like to know is how is voice over going to work with Face >> recognition? My other question is how is a VI person to point the phone >> at one's face for the software to pick up that it was you? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kawal. >>> On 30 Aug 2017, at 15:06, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I may be misreading things somewhat, but I find this article to have some >>> tongue-in-cheek factor to it. It references all the hype and scare >>> tactics out there when past features were implemented, and did the bad >>> things really come to pass? As Scott says, don't be naive and believe >>> that nothing can happen, but also don't jump on the bandwagon freaking >>> out at things that have likely been considered in a very detailed manner >>> by Apple developers. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 22:32, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Mark, very interesting article. See I’m not as sensitive to this because >>> I’ve worked for the government and for companies in highly secure >>> locations where your face is scanned all the time. Face, eyes, hands, >>> finger prints, all scanned and cross referenced. When I worked for a >>> major financial house I had my hands scanned in 3D and sent to the >>> federal reserve for a background check. So the idea that some >>> biometrics of mine exist out there in various clouds doesn’t freak me >>> out. I also worked for a company that put facial recognition in stores, >>> the way Bes Buy and other big chains do now. All technology has good and >>> bad sides. I like the comment we need to do our own do diligence. I >>> think that’s true. It can be hard though, there’s so much conspiracy >>> theory nonsense out there but then there are some real conspiracies to be >>> careful of so there you go. Great article, keep em coming. >>> >>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 6:58 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Macworld - Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 4:00 AM >>>> Face it: Every new Apple technology is a disaster >>>> Apple is expected to release a new technology next month so you know >>>> what >>>> that means: it's time to worry about how bad it will be. >>>> Writing for Mashable, Jack Morse says if you're not afraid, you will be. >>>> You >>>> will be. >>>> That is, of course, a reference to a line the popular movie series Star >>>> Trek. Don't @ me. >>>> "Facial recognition tech is taking over smartphones. Here's why you >>>> should >>>> be worried." (Tip o' the antlers to Tibor Csapo.) >>>> There are few things more personal than a face. >>>> A bespoke granite carving of a beloved pet thrown through the plate >>>> glass >>>> window of your summer house. A loved one who can recite your genome >>>> from >>>> memory. An H-shaped pair of coffins so you and your spouse can hold >>>> hands >>>> for all eternity. Your groin. That's about it. >>>> Every wrinkle, blemish, and freckle combine to tell a person's story. >>>> That mole that looks cancerous. The vertical scar running over your left >>>> eye >>>> which is a glassy white and a memento of that knife fight in Singapore >>>> in >>>> 1936. Your gold prosthetic nose. Your face tattoo that says "FREE >>>> MUSTACHE >>>> RIDES". This is who you are, Marsha. >>>> Oh, and if smartphone manufactures have their way, that map will also >>>> soon >>>> be the preeminent key to your digital life. >>>> At least we won't be misplacing it all the time, amirite?! Ha-ha! >>>> Any-hoo, >>>> what's the deal with avocado toast? >>>> Basically, it's a lose-lose situation-albeit one that the smartphone >>>> makers >>>> of the world seem all too excited to drag us into. >>>> You will not be surprised to learn that the word "enclave", which is >>>> used to >>>> describe the technology Apple currently uses to keep your fingerprint >>>> safe >>>> as part of Touch ID and will certainly be used as part of Face ID, does >>>> not >>>> appear anywhere in this article. >>>> Companies like Apple, Google, and Qualcomm are charging ahead to make >>>> face >>>> scans the new biometric we'll rely on for everything from unlocking >>>> phones >>>> to making digital purchases. >>>> And presumably all these companies have the same set of motivations, >>>> right? >>>> Like, they're all interested in getting your data and selling to third >>>> parties because that's their business model, right? >>>> This question is never addressed. >>>> Apple is loudly berated for being behind the curve in AI because it >>>> won't >>>> pull your data up to the cloud and use it to enhance its results. At >>>> the >>>> same time, though, it's lumped in with the group of feckless data >>>> dealers >>>> who prefer to think of it as "our" email rather than "your" email. >>>> "Once the always-on device gathers information, it may be available to >>>> many >>>> kinds of people, contrary to the user's intentions," Schwartz said. >>>> "These include external data thieves, who may break into the device or >>>> the >>>> data farm where content is stored; or internal employees of the company >>>> that >>>> makes the device, who improperly misappropriate customer content; or >>>> the >>>> police, by means of a subpoena or search warrant (depending on what the >>>> police are demanding). >>>> Which company has the better track record on these? Biometric data on >>>> an >>>> iPhone is stored in the enclave which is paired with the sensor it >>>> validates >>>> against. Nothing is stored in a data farm. Also, Apple stood up to the >>>> FBI >>>> when it wanted to the unlock the phone of a terrorist. Pretty sure >>>> they'll >>>> probably stand up for you. >>>> None of this is worth mentioning, though. We are to presume all these >>>> companies equally want eat your delicious face data. >>>> "Absolutely people should be concerned," said Schwartz. "What else is >>>> the >>>> company going to be doing with the face [scan]?" >>>> Apple? Nothing. They don't have it. >>>> Does this matter to you now? Maybe, maybe not. But it probably will >>>> when >>>> someone drains your bank account using nothing more than a photo they >>>> pulled >>>> off your Instagram account. >>>> Remember when the same kind of hacking was going to run rampant with >>>> Touch >>>> ID, which was a security disaster even though it was way better than >>>> the >>>> four-digit passcodes or no passcodes many people were using? Remember >>>> when >>>> the Apple Watch was going to give us wrist cancer? >>>> It is important to do proper due diligence on these technologies as >>>> they >>>> come out. It is irresponsible, however, to run around telling people >>>> hackers >>>> are going to use their selfies to steal their money. Look, if your bank >>>> account is about to be emptied by the iPhone 8, it's not because of Face >>>> ID. >>>> >>>> Original Article at: >>>> https://www.macworld.com/article/3220447/ios/face-it-every-new-apple-technol >>>> ogy-is-a-disaster.html#tk.rss_all >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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