Did not understand that but well, if a user is dependent on braille, that user will not feel a solidly-made braille display to be overpriced. Understand that concept? But here is the thing. How large a market do braille displays have? I dare say if if you can produce fantastic displays and sell a thousand a year, think you could sell them cheap and make a profit? Or would a million a year be more in line?

I've never studied marketing and all that but can say that if a company does not make a profit, it cannot stay in business.

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On 7/24/2017 8:50 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
And iPhone with the braille display would be much less expensive than the 
blandest waited well no takers. However, I understand people like them, I just 
think they are way too costly. Just one person's opinion.

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On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:43 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Les,
  Overpriced compared to? Is there a mainstream solution especially for the 
deafblind?

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On 7/24/2017 8:39 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Hi Mary,

In my opinion, all the no takers including the ultra or overpriced. The
ultra the last time I checked for the 40 so my will cost her about
$4000. Not worth it in my opinion for what you get. Anybody who buys a
blind is no taking device is really paying premium for it.

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On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive
blindness note taker, such as the new Polaris, you might consider the
varrio ultra. That has the ability to transfer files with a USB stick.
And it also has note taking capability. It has an excellent warranty.
Some people also find it more complicated than the traditional regular
braille displays such as the edge. They do have excellent US customer
support, as well as an online manual, and an active helpful email
list. This display comes in 20 or 40 sell links. It has a text reader,
word processor, PDF reader, spreadsheet viewer and others. What it
does not have our things like the ability to fetch email or connect to
the Internet. That is where you would need the full note taker, but
then you're also going to be paying a whole lot more. And if you're
good with your iPhone and your Mac, really, who needs that?
Mary


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On Jul 24, 2017, at 3:08 AM, Caitlyn Furness
<caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,
Personally, I love any of the Hims devices, so these are things like
the new polaris and the U2, braille sense line of products.  The
braille is nice and crisp, and the devices themselves are just very
well made.

I can’t speak about anything made by humanware except the brilliant,
but that’s a full sized display and doesn’t have the capability to
store files, just access what’s on the computer when you are hooked
up to it.

I think the braille edge from Hims also works somewhat like a braille
note taker, but am not sure on that.

I’ve had no troubles getting files from the mac onto the braille
sense.  when I attach it to my mac with a USB cable, the device comes
up like any other drive, and I can copy and paste things from one to
the other, although it takes a long time.  Of course, you can also
use a usb stick to transfer files, or the sd card.

HTH, and I’ll be interested to see what others have to say on this as
well!

Cait

On Jul 23, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Amelia Sackville McLauchlan
<phantom.va...@gmail.com <mailto:phantom.va...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all!

So am looking for some advice/guidance before I go out and start
applying for assistive tech grant money.  I used to use the
BrailleNote, but mine died a long time ago.  And even before it did,
I was starting to run into compatibility issues between it, the
program I used to transfer files to my old computer (a PC in those
days), and the computer itself.  Plus, of course, I've since
switched to Mac, which I don't think my BrailleNote was compatible
with anyway.  So now I'm without a Braille device!  But I really
want to get another one.  What's compatible with Mac, though?

Basically, what I'm looking for would be a portable, refreshable
Braille device that I can easily transfer files to from my computer
and back.  Because, although I might use it for writing sometimes,
what I'd mainly be using it for is reading.  For example, I'd use it
to read my papers when I present at conferences, or my
poetry/fiction at reading events.  Though, I might use it for
private reading too.  So are there devices in the Mac compatible
world that will allow me to do that?

Anyway, thanks.  :-) I figured that, if anyone would know, it'd be
folks here!

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