ok. I was afraid of that. clearing out voiceover prefs while the client is 
still running can be a bit problematic. oh well, it's gotta be done anyway.

-eric

On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> I don't think the crash has anything to do with spotlight.
> It sounds like the speech synthesizer controller might have crashed 
> (macintalk). 
> 
> I read the log as after the VO crash something was trying to check if there 
> were fixes for the crash and failed to be able to do the search. Perhaps 
> being an older  OS, the DB for the crash reporter isn't available? 
> 
> I do remember an issue in that version of OS where a string of ha repeated 
> could crash things. 
> If you can't find consistency in a document that cause the crash, then 
> perhaps removing all preference files associated with VoiceOver might clear 
> things out.
> 
> These are located in Library/references under your home directory 
> 
> You should also be able to find the crash files in your Library folder.
> 
> 
> 
>               Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> btw, I checked and it does appear that spotlight is actually up and working, 
>> so I don't know why its being reported otherwise.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> hello all,
>>> 
>>> I have been seeing increasingly random crashes with voiceover on my old mac 
>>> system here over the last few months. It's an older whitebook using OS X 
>>> Lion (no I don't have anything newer here and couldn't afford it if I 
>>> wanted to). here are the relevant lines from console:
>>> 
>>> 7/11/17 1:30:35.455 PM com.apple.VoiceOver: 
>>> /SourceCache/SpeechSynthesis_MacInTalk/SpeechSynthesis-4.0.74/Synthesizers/MacinTalk/Sources/MTFEPOSResolver.cp:2576:
>>>  failed assertion `selectedHomograph'
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 7/11/17 1:30:39.118 PM ReportCrash: DebugSymbols was unable to start a 
>>> spotlight query: spotlight is not responding or disabled.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 7/11/17 1:30:53.013 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.502: 
>>> (com.apple.VoiceOver[3654]) Job appears to have crashed: Abort trap: 6
>>> 
>>> 7/11/17 1:31:02.452 PM ReportCrash: Saved crash report for VoiceOver[3654] 
>>> version ??? (???) to 
>>> /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/VoiceOver_2017-07-11-133102_localhost.crash
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> am I suffering from OS creep here? if so, I guess a reinstall is in order.
>>> 
>>> thnx
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
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