Oh, ok, and then have you actually tried turning vo back on with command f5? Surprising that I’ve struck this everytime I’ve done a full reinstall of an OS and when the restart happens I just re enable VO with command f5.
Then it starts talking again From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 9:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Installer not talking on my iMac No I don’t think you are right here. VO is speaking perfectly normally during the first part of the install under recovery console- that is the part which works with Fred and I have no difficulties here. You only lose speech at the point when after downloading Sierra and installing the Mac reboots and you enter the setup wizard for the user entering Sierra for the first time. So volume is fine and Voiceover works perfectly for the first part of the install with Fred under Recovery Console and works perfectly with Daniel after the install has completed after the reboot. It is during the crucial stage that you are having to enter details like keyboard and Region , your Apple id and password and icloud details and reject options for keychain etc under Sierra setup that I am having problems. . It is during this part of the install setup only that Voiceover for some reason completely disappears apart from providing a silent text echo on the screen of what you should be hearing. This has happened to me twice now and is clearly not what is supposed to happen. It appears that this problem is only affecting iMacs and the Siera OS for some reason. The only thing I would add which may suggest a local problem is that twice now my Sierra iMac has dumped me into recovery console after a normal reboot with no option to boot normally back into my Sierra OS. I am trapped with only the option to re-install OS. As the Recovery Console only offers Yosemite this means I have had to overwrite Sierra with Yosemite twice now and then re-download Sierra and install again on top of Yosemite. This is all very time consuming. Incidentally the Yosemite setup remains perfectly accessible from start to finish. This is only an issue when I apply the Sierra upgrade. If it happens one more time I guess I might just give up on Sierra. My iMac is a 2011 model with 256gb SSD and 16GB Ram including an upgrade to what was then the highest processor speed available so it should be able to cope. David Griffith From: Tim Kilburn<mailto:kilbu...@me.com> Sent: 26 June 2017 15:54 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Installer not talking on my iMac Hi David, Your assertion that it has nothing to do with muting or volume level is not necessarily valid. The base system that is part of the installers and the Recovery system accesses resources differently than the regular MacOS. So, if VO is behaving normally after the installation has finished, then it is accessing the full suite of system resources. The base system has a limited set of settings as you can affirm by the limited functionality of VO in general. This is not to minimize your frustration, just to clarify things a little. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 26, 2017, at 07:40, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com<mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote: I I am not sure if my message got through yesterday. However I have had exactly the same issue on my iMac with installing Sierra. I have installed loads of OS versions before without issue before coming up against this accessibility barrier. Voiceover only comes to life after the Sierra installer has completed. Sighted help was telling me that every time I pressed command F5 Voiceover on would appear as text on screen but no sound would emerge. This has nothing to do with muting or volume levels as everything suddenly reverts to normal Voiceover feedback as soon as the installer finishes. I contacted Appole Accessibility about this but they pretty much dismissed my concerns by claiming that I was the only person who had ever reported this as an issue. So if others are experiencing the same issue on their iMacs then I would urge you to report it to Appole Accessibility and perhaps they will take it seriously and investigate. David Griffith Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Nickus de Vos<mailto:bigboy...@gmail.com> Sent: 25 June 2017 12:00 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Installer not talking on my iMac Hi all I had to format and install a clean copy of Sierra for a friend over the weekend and thought while I have the installer on a USB flash drive I might as well do my iMac as well, since I’ve been wanting to do a clean install for a while. Everything worked as expected on my friends MBP and I did the clean install for him, Voiceover talked me through the entire process as expected. However this morning when I wanted to do my iMac, Voiceover simply didn’t want to start during the installation process no matter what I tried. For reference I then inserted the USB drive with the installer in to my Macbook Pro and booted in to it and Voiceover started just fine, but nothing happens on my iMac. 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