If you use Chrome with VO, then you can use VO keystrokes and most or all Safari keystrokes are available.
Chrome Vox is the chromebook builtin screen reader and is available as an extension for the browser at least on Mac Windows and Linux. There is a beta version called Next that provides accessibility to the entire cbook interface and shorter key sequences for commands that VO enables with quicknav. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:34 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I am becoming intrigued with the idea of using Chrome so may install it. > Are there differences in keystrokes? > > Is ChromeVox part of Chrome or is it a separate installation? And what is > its purpose? Thanks. > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 1/3/2017 3:20 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I find it useful. There are some situations, especially in Google-land, >> that ChromeVox is better at dealing with. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Jan 3, 2017, at 16:19, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> I actually don’t have chromevox installed. >> Maybe i should take the plunge and do that. >> /A >>> 4 jan. 2017 kl. 00:03 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com >>> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>>: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just have Chrome set to update itself. So, it simply does it in the >>> background and you don't even notice it. Chrome does the updates >>> while the browser is open, so there's no need to restart the browser >>> or anything of the sort. Updates to ChromeVox are also done on the >>> fly. Occasionally, the style of update to ChromeVox requires you to >>> accept something, so it will remain disabled until that is accepted. >>> In those cases, I just use VO to do what needs done in Chrome to >>> re-enable ChromeVox. >>> >>> HTH. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 15:58, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> Can chrome tell me when there are new updates for it availlable? >>> /A >>>> 1 jan. 2017 kl. 00:52 skrev Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>>: >>>> >>>> Chrome beats Safari in performance, security, accessibility, and >>>> other metrics. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 3:09 PM Scott Granados >>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> From what I’ve read as well, google chrome is much more efficient >>>> in power use than safari. Safari is supposedly a big power >>>> draw. Some people are using chrome in it’s place for better >>>> battery results. >>>> >>>> > On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com >>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > From all I've read, it's not as simple as that. The new >>>> processors have two modes, one high-power and one low-power, >>>> between which they switch constantly. Thus, any battery time >>>> indicator on the new Pro will almost certainly be inaccurate, >>>> because a few minutes at high power could be the same as a longer >>>> time at low power. This would cause the time estimate to be all >>>> over the place. Apple therefore decided to just show you the >>>> remaining percentage, just like it's done on iOS since the beginning. >>>> > >>>> > Personally, I much prefer this, or I would if I could read it. >>>> :) I'm so used to percentage only on iOS, and gauging time left >>>> by where my percentage is at a given point in the day, that it >>>> makes more sense to me. We all know no laptop battery time >>>> estimate is going to be very good, so I like having the raw >>>> percentage and doing my own estimate. Yes, there's more Apple >>>> could do here with better and more complex algarithms and models, >>>> but for now, this feels like a good solution and not the scandal >>>> some on Twitter and in the media want it to become. But that's >>>> just me. >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > >>>> >> On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:18, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net >>>> <mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Command+space is actually the default spotlight command, you >>>> could change that in keyboard preferences, but that's the default. >>>> >>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com >>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I don't knowhow, but my new Pro is set to open Spotlight when >>>> you hit cmd-space. If you hold that down for a second, though, >>>> Siri appears. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 09:23, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> One small correction, I think you mean Option+Space. :) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 6:32 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com >>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> As of Sierra, you can. Hold down cmd-space until you hear >>>> the tone, then speak. As far as I can tell, this is like iOS in >>>> that you can keep holding the keys down, or release them >>>> immediately and let Siri figure out, by a pause in your speaking, >>>> when you've finished your command. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>>> Alex Hall >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 07:27, 'Eleanor Roberts' via >>>> MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Hi. This is all very helpful. Just out of interest, how do >>>> you use Siri on the Mac?? I use it on my IPhone etc all the time, >>>> but didn't know you could do it on Mac too. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Eleanor >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On 31 Dec 2016, at 05:00, 'Peggy' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> I have a Macbook Air. I didn't have a problem checking >>>> battery status until I updated my mac a couple of weeks ago. I >>>> use siri to check the battery, very easy to do. >>>> >>>>>>> Peggy and Dixie Marie >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Mike Arrigo >>>> <n0...@charter.net <mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Hey everyone, going to cover a few different things in >>>> one message. First, as the subject says, has anyone else had >>>> issues reading the time remaining or percentage of a macbook >>>> battery in sierra? This happens on my 2010 macbook, and my girl >>>> friend's 2015 macbook pro. While in the status menus, moving left >>>> and right with the voiceover cursor allows you to get to the >>>> battery item, but it just says battery or something similar, no >>>> time remaining or percentage, this happens whether the option to >>>> show the percentage is checked or not in the menu. The only way I >>>> know of to get around this is to check it in the energy saver >>>> settings in system preferences. Interestingly, you can no longer >>>> use the regular arrow keys to navigate the status menus, you must >>>> use VO navigation. I don't mind this, actually it's more >>>> consistent this way since before, the arrow keys only navigated >>>> built in items like wifi or the battery, third party items such >>>> as dropbox always have required VO navigation to access them. >>>> >>>>>>> I can confirm that on the 2010 macbook, the same issue I >>>> had with my 2010 mac mini does happen, when using Alex, speech >>>> disappears, sometimes for a few seconds, sometimes completely, >>>> again, switching to a Nuance voice resolved it. >>>> >>>>>>> I actually got a Christmas present for myself, a new mac >>>> mini, the issue does not happen on the newer hardware. I am using >>>> a fit headless adapter connected to the HDMI port, out of >>>> curiosity, I decided to disconnect it and see if voiceover was as >>>> sluggish as it used to be, surprisingly, I didn't notice much >>>> difference. I didn't run it this way for a long time, but I >>>> wonder if Apple has finally fixed this issue for voiceover users. >>>> If not, the fit headless adapter is definitely a good solution. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of >>>> the Mac Visionaries list. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running >>>> of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is >>>> inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly >>>> rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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