Hi The wd my passports and elements is simply a different casing and product witin the WD brand line.
There is also duo or dual I think there is also an essentials I know there are at least 5 different models with 4 or 5 different storage sizes within each line. One of the big things I've found is the prices between the different models can be substantial and most of all, don't buy the drives that are saying they are Mac formatted as they are a higher price I recommend to everyone to buy the cheaper drives not with the mac format label and then just format them yourself it saves you money here in NZ Hope that helps. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2016 6:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: External drives and Time Machine In your guy’s opinion what’s the difference between the WD Passports and Elements drives? I take it, you are reformatting the drives for Mac. A side question, does Carbin Copy Cloner take snapshots of your Mac every hour? This seems a little excessive for my needs. I just want a reliable backup of my hard drive. For a silly example, I was looking for an old ringtone and found it on my 2013 Time Machine backup. Thanks, Traci > On Dec 25, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I used to burn through Fugitsu and WD drives at a high rate but this > was because we were hammering them in an NNTP server. I was burning a > drive per day at one point although once we switched over to IBM and > high end Seagates things improved. At that time though 100 gigs of > data or more was a lot.:) > > I had a Spark server 2000 and a bunch of SCSI drives that handled piles and > piles of net news. > >> On Dec 25, 2016, at 6:33 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I may have used Seagate in the distant murky past when I built my Windows >> desktops. Will research this in the new year. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 12/25/2016 2:51 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> I always used higher end seagate or IBM / Hitachi drives myself. IBM have >>> definitely treated me well. >>> >>>> On Dec 25, 2016, at 5:46 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Scott, >>>> Any brand in particular that are reliable? I am currently using WD >>>> Passport drives, have 4 now, lost one early this year. Am more redundant >>>> nowadays. >>>> >>>> For that reason, I use two separate drives for Time Machine and Carbon >>>> Copy Cloner. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. >>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> >>>> On 12/25/2016 2:33 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>> Or go with an SSD drive. SSD doesn’t have the same issues as the >>>>> old rotating type and are much much faster. >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 24, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Most consumer hard disk drives are just not meant for long term >>>>>> reliable use especially if they are subject to changing >>>>>> temperatures and laptop use. If you spend a little more I think >>>>>> the reliability of even Seagate and WD drives improves. Generally >>>>>> though folks with critical information will use a raid system. A >>>>>> raid will combine multiple separate drives into one virtual drive >>>>>> that increases your reliability. Also protecting your drive from >>>>>> sudden movement while in use is essential The Take Control Books >>>>>> have a guide on backups that you would find useful, and their >>>>>> books are 25% off until I believe next week. >>>>>> . >>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jonathan Cohn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2016, at 2:43 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a few more questions on Time Machine back ups and >>>>>>> external hard drives. In researching for a new external drive, >>>>>>> I’m learning that I’ve been rather lucky that my Seagate has not failed >>>>>>> on me. >>>>>>> Apparently, Seagate and WD drives failures are pretty common. >>>>>>> Any recommendations? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Onto Time Machine… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to copy individual TM back ups? Say I chose a >>>>>>> few from each year, could I copy and paste those onto a USB >>>>>>> stick? For separate safe keeping? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How about deleting older back ups to make space? I’ve entered >>>>>>> Time Machine, but cannot figure out how to select then delete old >>>>>>> backups. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Traci >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>> Mac Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>>>>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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