btw, I know of a few folks that retired from bell labs. One holds some 28 patents for modification of the old mechanical telco switches to handle digital data. He lives just up the road in peoria az. He is the one that taught me a few tricks with linux. :)
-eric On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > I’m such a fan of the Unix environments. You all did good work at Bell labs. > Consider how long Unix has held up as the standard now. It’s as important > today as ever and I don’t see a time when it won’t be. Well done! > >> On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> I want to thank you for putting that DD commandline out there, I worked for >> many years at AT&T Bell laboratories were all development work was done on >> UNIX systems and I completely forgotten about the DD command. Nice to have a >> refresher. >> >> Paul, >> >> Eric is making a very sound suggestion here, the IF=/dev/zero parameter in >> the suggested command line is a UNIX standard for writing null data to the >> output file (OF=). >> >> And Paul, if you have no useful vision at all I suggest you read this >> message character by character so that you will realize that the command >> line options in Eric's message are actually symbols rather than spelled out >> words. >> ************ >> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 10.0.2) >> >> On Dec 9, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> well, you could always use dd. The command I would use is: dd if=/dev/zero >>> of=/dev/<specific device here> and then let it run. it might take a while >>> to erase, but there will not even be partition information on there >>> afterward. after that, you can use disk utility to repartition and format >>> that usb device. >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 3:41 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Further to my earlier post about erasing a folder without going via >>>> trash….. >>>> >>>> I I am running the latest El Capitan on my late 2008 iMac. >>>> I have a 256 GB memory stick with I have used as a time machine backup >>>> disk with encryption. I have also used it as the target disk for a >>>> SuperDuper! backup of my iMac. >>>> The experience was not entirely satisfactory as 256 GB is not enough for >>>> more than a couple of time machine backups and a SuperDuper! backup. Also >>>> both time machine and SuperDuper! backups were very slow, much slower than >>>> a USB attached external hard disk drive. >>>> >>>> So I now want to empty the 256 GB memory stick and reuse it for other >>>> purposes. I first tried using disk utility to erase the disk but that did >>>> not work as it said I did not have the authority to do the erase. >>>> I then tried erasing each folder with Command+Ottion+Delete. That took a >>>> long time and also did not work. >>>> >>>> I note the posts about using terminal commands. I am not familiar with >>>> that so am rather nervous about using it. I am also wondering about the >>>> effect of my having originally used the memory stick for an encrypted time >>>> machine backup with the password saved in the keychain. How do I mark the >>>> memory stick as not encrypted? >>>> >>>> In summary I want to restore the memory stick to its original empty >>>> unencrypted state. 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