100% agree with Jonathan, and actually, for the note, this isn't the major bug
I found, though again, I can't state what that bug is. It's not so severe it
renders things uselss, but it is a bit annoying.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Cohn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone users of the mail app think twice before upgrading to
10.2 when it comes out
I hardly ever use two finger flick up, because that is the behavior I would
have expected. Two finger flick up is supposed to read from beginning and two
finger flick down from the current location.
I can understand that this would be frustrating but do we have evidence this
is a that the behavior you prefer is the intended behavior?
Best Wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:26 PM Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well I haven't heard John say he's against this kind of post, so I'm taking
my chances. The problem is with the two finger flick up when you have opened a
message. It now behaves like the iPad, that is, it reads a whole lot of extra
stuff that you don't need or want to hear, the to field, the from field, but
time, the subject, and finally the words "message body". It does all that
before it reads the text of the message you want to hear. iPads have been doing
this since the inception of iOS 10. But the iPhone has been good until
somewhere in the 10.2 beta cycle. Now it's not good. If you read as much email
as I do, this is a righteous pain in the eye won't say where.
Mary
PS, I have reported it before for the iPad and now for the phone, and I
know others have reported it for the iPad, and they still haven't fixed it of
course.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 6, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Just post the problem so we can all post our concerns to Apple if we
agree. I haven’t run in to a problem so it would also be good to see if it’s
universal or not. If you’re not comfortable, write off list and I’ll post it
at least where we shouldn’t have objection.
>
>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with you, Scott. But since the list admin of at least one of the
lists which I have posted has explicitly stated that they do not want such
discussions on list, I felt the only thing I could do was say that there is a
problem, and people should wait until the final comes out, hear what the
problem is and decide for themselves if they can live with it. I don't know
what else to do.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t disagree more strongly.
>>>
>>> When our access is concerned and someone wants to raise concerns I
think it’s critical that they do so and this is the public beta. I actually
called Apple and was told that discussions like these were permitted. Also
consider that Redmondpie gives an update to date feature and change release
publicly for each beta release meaning there is no legal concern and I have
confirmation right from the horses mouth. We need to discuss this openly in as
many forums as possible so that suitable notification and public reaction to
problems can be generated.
>>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:58 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can't we keep this off list 100%? If 10.2 is still in beta then its
off topic, yes? Where is that discussion group for beta testers?
>>>>
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/6/2016 9:52 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>>> Well, I did confirm off list with another beta user who is having the
same issue I am having. So I know it isn't just me, running beta six on an
iPhone 7 Plus. Maybe this issue doesn't bother you as much as it does me. And
this other user.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Scott Granados
<scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not had any issues with mail on 10.2 on the 7+ running Beta 6
of the 10.2 train.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are a heavy user of the iPhone mail app, don't rush to
upgrade to 10.2 if you are not already in the beta program. Since I suppose
were not supposed to say what is the problem on some of these lists, I won't.
Just saying, don't do it before you hear about the problem if it doesn't get
fixed.
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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