Well not going to get in a heated argument with you on the list. This is not what the list is for. But will say if you don't know what makes a blindness product special to the blind community you must not be blind. If you want to continue the discussion/ argument will do it off list.
Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: questions about NVDA Just out of curiosity, but what exempts blindness products, or for that matter, AT companies, from "bashing", or at least honest criticism, which would not be relevant to the "bashing" or, at least, honest criticism, of non-AT products? Or, put in simpler terms, what makes blindness-related products so special? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Dec 12, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Joe Plummer wrote: > Hi, I think this is bashing a blindness product and personally don't > think we should be bashing blindness products of any kind especially > on a list for blind users of a product for the blind. I think the Mods > should step in and stop this. Just my thoughts. > > > > > Sign, > JP ( Joe Plummer) > joeplum...@tds.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:13 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: questions about NVDA > > And I, as I am completely sure are others, getting absolutely sick and > tired of FS wasting ours and government dollars with a product that is > overpriced so they can engage in such dishonest behavior, buying up > patents on every stupid characteristic so they can plant them as land > mines and then trying to monopolize the market by trying to put > everyone else out of business with their dishonest bool shit through > the court system and trying to cause them to have to spend tmore than > they have and put them under. This is criminal, not at all good for > our industry, and with this kind of behavior we would all be better > off without Freedom scientific's existance. Clearly their only mission > is to fill their pockets. They need to go take their bool shit to some > other industry if that is all they want. Get the hell out if that is their motivation in the market. > > Jim > > > On 12/12/09, Joe Plummer <joeplum...@tds.net> wrote: >> Hi, 4 gb will do just fine with running Windows in boot camp or the >> other ways. I wouldn't spend the money on the ram, unless you are >> going to do high end gaming or high end video or audio editing. I >> would spend the money on something better. Just my thoughts. >> >> >> >> >> Sign, >> JP ( Joe Plummer) >> joeplum...@tds.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty >> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:50 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: questions about NVDA >> >> Yeh It's the mbp 2.53 ghz processor model, I'm pgetting it with 4gb >> ram, as 8gb would have cost another 1200 dollars from apple out of >> the > factory. >> >> >> So I'll just wait a couple of months and get 8 gig in 2 4 gig sticks > that >> should take care of any memory issues with bootcamp or vm fusion if >> I go that way. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Plummer >> Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2009 9:22 a.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: questions about NVDA >> >> This is true you will need some vision around to do boot camp. But >> once you get it done, you will be ok. It is a matter of choice and >> how much ram your Mac will have. I would say to make it work great >> using the other ways you will need at least 4gb of ram. Can get by >> with less but 4gb will be much better. Just my thoughts. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sign, >> JP ( Joe Plummer) >> joeplum...@tds.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mann >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:56 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: questions about NVDA >> >> If you're planning to use Bootcamp, you'll probably need a sighted >> person around to read the Windows install. >> On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >> >>> Great, thanks for telling me that now. I was hoping to install boot >>> camp on my new mbp 13inch when it arrives in about a week. >>> >>> So would I be better then using vm fusion or virtual box? >>> >>> Or will windows 7 be fine in a bootcamp setup? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 8:29 a.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: questions about NVDA >>> >>> Hello Christina, >>> >>> I have both Windows and a MacBook Pro computer. In addition to >>> using Jaws in Windows 7, I am a longtime user of Zoomtext which I am >>> also using in Windows 7 on my Windows based computers. >>> >>> You are correct in that, at present, Zoomtext 9.1 does not work in >>> virtualized environments thus, you will, indeed need to run Windows >>> 7 in Bootcamp on your Mac. >>> >>> Please be aware that, unless something has changed since last I >>> checked, there are currently audio driver compatibility problems >>> when running BootCamp on the 13 inch MacBook Pro. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:54 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: questions about NVDA >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I saw a discussion earlier and the subject line was something like >>> back on a mac. Well someone mentioned NVDA on windows seven. I >>> have not installed windows on my macbook. However I've considered >>> it simply because I'd like to try using zoomtext to try to look at >>> photos as I do not feel the built in zoom for the mac is good for >>> that. I have lost so much vision lately so I'm not sure if even >>> zoom text would help but I am thinking of trying. I understand that >>> zoomtext will not work in the virtual enviornment and therefore I >>> would have to use boot camp. >>> >>> So onto my questions. What is NVDA? I do not have a windows screen >>> reader like jaws or window eyes so I'm curious as to what this is >>> and how robust this is. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Christina >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> Ryan Mann >> rmann0...@gmail.com >> Get to the root of the problem with the US economy at >> http://www.dailypaul.com. >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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