Hi Esther, 
I  am writing to give you more details. The drive I am using is in Mac OS 
extended journaled format. The two computers in question are my macbook, and an 
older desktop running the latest Ubuntu release. I know windows cannot read 
this type of drive at all, but Ubuntu can read it just fine. Note that I do not 
want to write anything to the drive from Ubuntu, and this is not possible 
anyway. But I do want to be able to read all the files, as I have some videos I 
want to share between both machines. Also, I want to be assured that, if my mac 
ever goes down, I won't be locked out of my drive. The fact that, in ubuntu, 
the files show up as not accessible is troublesome, though I guess to be 
completely fair I should try my drive on another mac. Ubuntu and mac handle the 
administrator account somewhat differently from what I understand. 

Is this correct? 

John 

On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> You don't mention what type of hard drive format you're using for the  
> external drive or the the operating systems of the other computers you  
> are using.  However, I'll give you what I believe is a piece of the  
> answer, and someone who has more hard drives and computers than I do  
> can probably fill you in on the rest.  Under unix and linux operating  
> systems file permissions are set at three levels: user, group, and  
> world.  You can add users and create accounts so that users belong to  
> the same group, and you can set some file permissions so that members  
> of the same group have access, while the rest of the world does not.   
> So, other user accounts created on the same computer might have access  
> privileges to the hard drive that an account from another computer  
> might not.  Furthermore, usually only the owner of a file or directory  
> (or someone with Administrator privileges who logs in as a superuser)  
> can change the permissions on a file.  I don't know how you log into  
> your account on the Mac or on the other computer.  You could be using  
> your Mac from a regular user account or, more likely, an account with  
> Administrator privileges.  When you log into the other computer, which  
> might have a different operating system, you may or may not have  
> access as a superuser.  But, in any case, since those files weren't  
> created under the second system, their protection would not generally  
> automatically be set to let them be read by "the outside world".  I  
> should add that since I'm the only user of my Mac laptop, I've done  
> limited exploration of changing account permissions from the default  
> categories available through the GUI.  I'd have to experiment from  
> command-line arguments in Terminal, and do things the way they would  
> work on other unix and linux systems.  However, there's not enough  
> information in your originally posted question to give a detailed  
> answer, since we don't know about the operating system, your original  
> external drive format, and your account access status on the two  
> machines, just as a starter.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> John J Herzog wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> I have a question about external hard drives and permissions. As a  
>> backup, I would normally copy the folders from my user on the mac,  
>> i.e. documents, videos, etc. to the external hard drive. When  
>> attempting to transfer my files to another computer, I was told I  
>> did not have the permissions to display contents of the folders.
>> I know how to fix this, as you can plug the drive into the original  
>> mac, press command I, and change the permissions settings from  
>> within that screen. But there's still something I don't understand.
>> If other computers do not have permission to the user folders on the  
>> drive, how was I able to access my stuff after performing a clean  
>> install of snow leopard? In other words, why didn't I get the error  
>> that I had no permissions when trying to reload things onto the  
>> newly formatted internal hard drive of my macbook?
>> This puzzles me. Why didn't this error come up with, essentially a  
>> new Mac OS, yet it prevents me from moving things to other computers?
>> 
>> John
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