I do not think I have been using a Mac long enough to agree or disagree that accessibility is degrading. I hear the frustration. I keep mine to myself. (smiles) I contend however, that the mainstream market as a whole is evolving so rapidly that more issues crop up and we as blind consumers are not the only ones affected.
So let's choose a volunteer here who excels in braille and ship him/her off to Apple.
From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/28/2016 4:00 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
Well, using Linux in the console, if you can get used to it, is very accessible, but not moddern enough to be very productive in today's social media stuff. Yes, the Mac accessibility is usable, but for how much longer? How much more will it degrade? That's what I worry about. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2016, at 5:53 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: Last shot at this for now. Show me another platform that rises above all. The next best enterprise we could look to would be advances in medical science. I will leave it at that. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.comOn 9/28/2016 3:43 PM, Devin Prater wrote: And unlike the big boys, you cannot improve Voiceover yourself. If something doesn't work, sorry. Beg the developer to fix it, or find some other program that works but may not work as well, such as Parallels, we must use VMWare. Also, if you need better braille support, you have to fiddle around and try and get BRLTTY to work, and even then it's just for the terminal. All in all, openness has pretty big advantages. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2016, at 1:43 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: And unlike the big boys, all accessibility tools are not only included, they work out of the box. At the end of the day, the initial high cost is just that. Also unlike the big boys and third party developers, there is no need of SMAs or added costs to keep up. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.comOn 9/28/2016 11:38 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote: No bloatware as far as I am concerned. With every single mac you purchase, Apple Store or otherwise, comes no bloatware unlike the big PC boys like Acer or HP. On 28 Sep 2016, at 14:55, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: Bloteware? Um, no offense, but I've not seen any bloteware on the mac with Sierra or the like. Care to elaborate? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. ----- Original Message ----- From: "-dan d." <dandun...@gmail.com> To: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> Cc: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Apple kills my little mini with Sierra No, it is the apple gravy train at work with built in obsolescence as a marketing approach. Pushing bloatware out each year is no excuse and no favor for the end user.On Wed, 28 Sep 2016, Alex Hall wrote: You're not considering the resource needs of the OS itself. New operating systems have animations, background tasks, throughput needs, and other requirements that must be met or the OS will run slowly and poorly. Apple has to decide where those problems become so great that the OS would not be usable. Yes, they can disable certain parts, like Airdrop on non-BT4.x machines, but eventually they'd be disabling more than they'd leave. It's like iPhones. When the 4 and 4s were getting upgrades, you'd hear the same thing every year. People would scream about how their phone didn't get the latest OS, and how terrible is it that Apple is abandoning their customers, and on and on. (I'm not accusing you of saying that.) Then, if Apple gave old phones an upgrade the next year, people would complain about the stuttering animations, the missing features, the slow response times, and so on. Apple can either cut off old machines and get hammered about money-grubbing and not being responsible for their customers, or they can support old machines and get hammered about poor performance and not supporting new features.On Sep 28, 2016, at 06:31, Martin Brown <mbrown.bro...@gmail.com> wrote: I have tried to download Sierra using my 2009 Mac Mini, but was informed that my device was not compatible. I am somewhat surprised at this because my Mini has 4GB of ram and a 500GB hard drive. I say somewhat surprised, but not totally. Perhaps Apple has applied the 7 year rule. Put simply the powers that be feel it is time for me to join Apple's gravy train and spend some cash in their direction. Not a chance Mr Cook. I shall run this little baby up to, and beyond, the point where my smoke alarms start going off. I often hear the argument that Apple only use the very best components in their devices. Very good, but what is the point if the device has to go on the scrap heap half a century before the components might even consider giving up the ghost. Not a lot in my humble opinion. So much for conservation and getting the best out of limited resources. All the best from the last of the Neanderthals somewhere in the UK. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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