Hey guys, While shift tab may not be working why not make your life easier. This is in standard mail with the preview pane closed. All you need to do is VO j and you can go directly from the message column to your mailbox column and vice versa. Pretty simple. As far as moving mailboxes to your favorites, this is hit and miss as I did it with VO comma and VO period, but could not rearrange the order of my favorites. Good luck. > On Sep 22, 2016, at 5:25 AM, Gerry Cook <gerryc...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Mark and Grant I was able to get an accessibility adviser from apple to > confirm not being able to shift tab in apple, mail. He’s taken a ticket up > to engineering. Thanks. > cheers gerry have a nice day > Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au> > Skype: gerry.cook1 > Twitter: @gerrycook52 > >> On 22 Sep. 2016, at 5:12 pm, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu >> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: >> >> Hello Grant, >> >> I can confirm the first item in your list said item being >> "1. You can't Shift-Tab to the mailboxes table as it will not appear in the >> tab order. So, for instance, if you are focussed in the messages list you >> need to tab several times until you wrap back around to the mailboxes table." >> >> >> First, I encourage you to send your findings to Apple. >> >> Second, let me say that this bug was first reported to Apple back in June so >> they are definitely aware of it. >> >> Third, in my setup, using the Standard View with a Preview Pane showing and >> the Favorites Bar hidden, a quick workaround is to Shift-tab until focus >> lands on an item, not expected, then simply tap the tab key and focus will >> land on the Mailboxes table. >> >> For example, when on the Message List Table, execute key-combo Shift+Tab. >> This, of course, should take focus back to the left landing on the MailBoxes >> Table. However, in my setup, Focus is taken to the Search edit field. I >> simply hit the Tab key and focus moves to the right, landing on the >> Mailboxes Table. In the current build of the application, I must use 1 >> additional key tap to land on the Mailboxes table as compared to El Capitan. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Grant >> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:29 PM >> To: MacVisionaries List >> Subject: Bugs in Apple Mail with MacOS 10.12 >> >> Hey guys, >> >> Wondering if you folks can confirm the following: >> >> 1. You can't Shift-Tab to the mailboxes table as it will not appear in the >> tab order. So, for instance, if you are focussed in the messages list you >> need to tab several times until you wrap back around to the mailboxes table. >> >> >> 2. If you are in the mailboxes table and press VO-Fn-Right Arrow (that’s >> VO-End), Mail freezes and needs to be restarted to continue using it. >> 3. I’ll admit I haven’t exhausted all possibilities here, but can’t change >> the contents of the favourites bar via VO’s drag and drop or via the “mouse >> button locking” method that used to work. >> 4. Unless you hide the favourites bar, each folder in the favourites bar now >> appears in the tab order. I’ll admit this is more of a “change in behaviour” >> than a bug. >> >> Would love to hear your thoughts. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Grant >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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