You’re forgetting one key thing though, T-Mobile floats a lot of stock out there and issued blocks recently to raise money for expansion and spectrum.
VZ has a tremendous amount of cash flow but a tremendous amount of debt. Remember they had to buy their way out of Votophone. You’re right though, it does help. You should have seen our lab called building 51 (E.T. should like that reference). We had a whole replication of the VZ network in miniature in our building. I’m not sure if the regulators will allow it but it would be nice for T-Mo to buy Sprint and fix that network or at least put that spectrum to better use. Unfortunately the dish network burger would probably be more easy to make happen, I hope it does not. > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh I am sure. They have been talking about 5G testing now for sometime I > think. It seems like that's the one thing Vesey has over everybody. They > still have the most customers by far, which should mean they have more money > than anybody to spend on these kinds of improvements. T-Mobile has been doing > well. But they are still number three in the big race, and you would think > that would impact of their income over all and thus and their ability to do > stuff in the future > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net > <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: > >> I like to see the competition, I think it’s a cool thing. There are very >> sharp people at VZ including my friend who is the lead engineer in the NNO >> group, they will continue in the arms race I’m sure.:) >> >>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:37 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, you got paid for it. So if it's smoked, it's smoked. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like they are continuing to build out which is a good sign and I >>>> know they are closing on more spectrum for more areas. Enjoy the read it’s >>>> from their CTO and has a fair bit of technical detail which is nice. My >>>> handiwork at Verizon just got smoked.:) >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:30 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for including the link, Scott. I haven't seen that yet in my >>>>> aggregation of tech news. I'm glad to see it's coming to the whole >>>>> networ. Maybe that means even we out here in Oregon will get it. Smile. >>>>> Really need that wider coverage out here in the wild wild West. >>>>> >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> For folks who are aware, Verizon just launched LTE advanced or the >>>>>> ability to bond carriers. T-Mobile has had carrier aggregation in the >>>>>> network since 2014 and with new advances announced this week jumps back >>>>>> in to the lead being over 2 times faster than verizon with maximum >>>>>> speeds of 400 megabits now available. Two key technologies have been >>>>>> released, 4X4 MIMO and new modulation schema 64/quad upload and 256/quad >>>>>> download. >>>>>> First, 4X4 MIMO allows t-mobile to open twice as many paths to your >>>>>> handset. This means that data is now spread on multiple paths per band >>>>>> effectively increasing the bandwidth ( radio bandwidth) between your >>>>>> handset and the tower. This technology is up and running now in over >>>>>> 251 cities and quickly being rolled out network wide. >>>>>> Second, the new modulation scheme means that more bits per frame or >>>>>> transmission are sent at one time. This upgrade will be fully rolled >>>>>> out across the T-Mobile network by the end of october. 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