Yes and no,

I have a 6s+ 128 gig  retail buy outright here in nz is approx. 1800 dollars.

Now if I asked for 900 for my phone that would be high enough that someone 
would just say  I’ll buy the 64 gig model which in most cases is only a couple 
of hundy more.

Or they get the 6s version of the 7 which wouldn’t be a lot more either.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2016 12:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone 
seven

I personally could care less what the memory size is.  All my content is 
streamed so I don’t use much of it other than for application memory.  Whether 
it’s 16, 32, or 256 GB it’s all the same.  The only thing I find is the higher 
memory units have a better resale value.




On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes. I too would like to be able to plug my eye device into a PC or Mac and 
access that like I could  A thumb drive. I would also like a storage slot, so 
that damned 16 GB model they sell wouldn't be so ridiculously limited. Yes, I 
know they are supposedly upping it to 32, big deal. On the other hand, my 
android device is a nexus, because it gets timely updates, just like apples 
things do. No storage card there either. Nothing is perfect.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Michael Marshall 
<mightymaggie...@gmail.com<mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The article I read must' have been gravely misinformed.
I would just like to download files from Safari to my iPhone such as mp3 files.
viewing it as a harddrive like the Android phones.
On 2 Sep. 2016, at 1:26 pm, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone jack. They took away 
the storage card slot. And they brought it back, because people complain. They 
took away the user replaceable battery. They did not bring that back, despite 
complaint. They do what they want. There is no immediately efficient 
replacement for that storage card slot. Apple has never had one. People have 
complained forever about the fact that it is harder to access the whole file 
system on Apple devices. As Apple change that? No they have not.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Michael Marshall 
<mightymaggie...@gmail.com<mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There will definitely be a backlash, Samsung tried this and it was reversed.
The reason Apple is doing this is simple, money.
On 1 Sep. 2016, at 6:28 pm, Jonathan Mosen 
<jmo...@mosen.org<mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:

I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge 
negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the 
inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and 
reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. I'm 
the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about the removal 
of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I suspect based on what 
has leaked that the benefits to most people of upgrading will be so incremental 
that the lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out.
That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, because one 
thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging about the 
possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time when it may have 
made a difference, is that I was naive to think that blind people might be any 
more sensitive to and respectful of the accessibility needs of others, such as 
the hearing impaired. I guess I would like to think that since we know what 
impact inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the 
needs of others, even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has 
proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really 
upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves these 
days, and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad.
As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid wearer, 
i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all the time I 
use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone who moves 
through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to improve, Bluetooth 
drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's difficult to get 
through an entire business day of use without the need to charge something.
And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then 
charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, 
stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which parades 
their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, appears to be 
about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility market.
Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And they're 
going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in time, a 
USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive carefully managed 
industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on its iDevices. It's using 
a proprietary port that it doesn't even offer on its own personal computers, 
meaning you won't be able to use the Lightning-based Ear Pods even with a Mac. 
That's two sets of headphones you're going to have to carry around with you, 
unless you don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the port you want to 
charge your phone with. Absolutely absurd.
I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking Apple 
over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has given them a 
great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more viable for daily use. 
Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm really going to be stuck. 
Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then because there is certainly going 
to be a backlash.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org<http://mosen.org/>

On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Mary,

My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an active 
role in what the future brings.  We, as consumers, have alternatives and it's 
when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay attention.

Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous 
decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so certain 
that just because it decides something it better will make it so.

I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would 
change the lives of the world.  Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't 
changed one bit either with or without it.

As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow 
Apple's lead in the coming future.  As one of the executives of Samsung 
recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows."

My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see.  Fortunately for me, I 
no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device just 
because it is the latest.

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone 
seven

Hi Mark,
Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the 
disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage card 
thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the other 
rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new phone, 
as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other headphones. 
Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the headphone jack 
will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device makers are already 
moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the 
first ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the new 
iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.

When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the 
removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to its 
flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, effectively, 
rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept those features.

A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS devices 
to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon attaching 
the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed to turn to 
Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in order to manage 
photos.

Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature in 
the subsequent release of iTunes.

So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells me 
that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone 
seven

When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first 
appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so 
potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the 
iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least.
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